Banned from Google - Page 5

*Wassercrats* · 08-03-2005, 05:48 PM

You should report webpages like prom-dresses-discount.com/andilinks-prom-dresses/ to adsense-abuse --AT-- google.com.

*Andilinks* · 08-03-2005, 06:06 PM

Yes, but there are hundreds of them, I get 10 or 12 technorati tags a day for pages like this. Finding them all and reporting them would use up all my time. These are the actual scrapers, the worst of them--their content is worthless except to draw in searchers who then have no real option but the adsense link.

Andi

*TVB* · 08-03-2005, 06:15 PM

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Yes, but there are hundreds of them,

Who submitted your url to all of them hoping for better page rank based on incoming links? When I did a search on Andilinks after you reported the problem I saw your URL all over the place on a ton of link farms. Maybe that is the problem?

*Andilinks* · 08-03-2005, 08:24 PM

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...on a ton of link farms. Maybe that is the problem?

These are not link farms, they are scraper sites. I have neither asked for nor given a reciprocal link since 2002. Scraper sites take search result pages and publish them, often as blogs on blogger for the free hosting. Usually they don't include links, though sometimes they do. The content of the page is usually so poor that the only coherent link is Adsense. Voila, instant Adsense spam.

Google is aware of this problem, in fact this most recent purge seems to be aimed at scraper sites though not exclusively.

Since Google simply will not tell or even give a clue on specific problems there is no way to know.

Betsy I'm surprised that you accuse me of doing so stupid a thing...

Andi

*TVB* · 08-03-2005, 08:39 PM

Hmmmm...my sites have never had that happen. Is it a directory site specific problem?

*Andilinks* · 08-03-2005, 09:24 PM

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Is it a directory site specific problem?

It is a keyword specific problem. Most of the scrapers that pick up Andilinks text and republish it are looking for Women's apparel and certain tech keywords... Though in general there are scraper sites for any high traffic keyword, I don't pay a lot of attention to them but certainly am aware that many of the 36,000 search returns on "Andilinks" are due to scraper sites. Reporting that many sites would take all my time, besides something as widespread as this must be already known to Google.

And I wouldn't be so sure that it's never happened to you, it is a very widespread problem.

Andi

*Wassercrats* · 08-03-2005, 09:33 PM

Sorry, the original post that was here is no longer available.

But the point was that you can search for "bodies like ours" along with a popular search term of teenage interest, and find sites that scraped TVB's site.

*TVB* · 08-03-2005, 09:58 PM

I keep a close eye on the phrase and also recognize that "bodies like ours" is a part of speech at times. I also block referrers from porn sites and non relevent sites as they become apparent to me (generally through the stats--something I have done only twice and btw, thanks for bringing another to my attention).

That said, the phrase alone brings up 13000 results and going through the first few pages indicates to me they are are legitimate sites, which is not what I encountered searching "andilinks".

Deeper in, most of the results are irrelevent and use the phrase talking about other stuff.

*TVB* · 08-03-2005, 10:20 PM

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But the point was that you can search for "bodies like ours" along with a popular search term of teenage interest, and find sites that scraped TVB's site.

And I did just that with a bunch of different words and they seem to be only key word issues with no links back. I don't think grabbing keywords is a google banning event.

However, finding your url on link farms is probably another situation. A random check of what comes up with "andilinks" all gives links back to her site.

Betsy

*Andilinks* · 08-04-2005, 12:30 AM

I have never solicited links, nor do I answer emails that suggest exchanges. I do find my scraped content on a lot of sites though. If you have a good position for a high-traffic keyword there's no way to avoid this.

Betsy seems to be suggesting that I brought this on myself by placing my inbound links, to that I can only say that she is mistaken. I haven't solicited links in years, though when I start a new website I may be looking for entirely legitimate inbound links on relevant sites.

Andi