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Old 08-01-2005, 02:44 PM   Postid: 136603
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Re: Banned from Google

Hi Andi,

You might wisht to use http://www.dead-links.com/ . This site will spyder your site looking for dead links. It only goes through a maximum of 15,000 outbound links, and you appear to have 33,000+ outbound links. Perhaps, you could set up a dummy site or something and divide your sight into manageable chunks? Anyway...this service is free.

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Old 08-01-2005, 02:59 PM   Postid: 136604
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Re: Banned from Google

I do use the Xenu link slueth, and though it is burdensome it is probably still easier than dead-links.com because it provides me with a report that I can import directly into my database for matching and deletion.

But in any case I doubt that dead or broken links could account for the ban.

Thank you Kevin I appreciate your help.

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Old 08-01-2005, 03:06 PM   Postid: 136605
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Re: Banned from Google

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But in any case I doubt that dead or broken links could account for the ban.
I agree. My thoughts were that might be a culmination of factors. A few demirit points here and there, and then boom.

It would be nice if Google had a spot where you could enter a URL and it would say why a site is delisted. At least then we could all learn and ensure that we don't fall victim. I hope you achieve success and are once again listed.

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Old 08-01-2005, 03:31 PM   Postid: 136606
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if Google had a spot where you could enter a URL and it would say why a site is delisted.
Unfortunately that would probably be abused heavily to scam the system. Google's guessing game is designed to weed out the scammers. But yes, it sure would be nice.

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Old 08-01-2005, 03:37 PM   Postid: 136607
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Re: Banned from Google

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maybe I will trim out all the low-traffic pages.
It could be that your shift to pop stuff is hurting you, even though it's bringing you more traffic. That alone wouldn't get you banned though.
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Old 08-01-2005, 03:46 PM   Postid: 136608
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Re: Banned from Google

I will be reconstituing pages and beginning new sites with parts of Andilinks, but with the sandbox and the cost of this, etc I must be careful.
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Old 08-01-2005, 03:46 PM   Postid: 136609
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I just pasted two random descriptions from your diamonds page into my Google toolbar and there were hundreds of results for each. Maybe you need more unique descriptions.
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Old 08-01-2005, 04:17 PM   Postid: 136611
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Maybe you need more unique descriptions.
My descriptions are mostly from the "description" meta tag of the site described which may in fact be the problem. If that is the case my selective editing of sites is not enough--my site looks too much like a high-rent Google page for Google.

My pages provide (in some cases) a far superior version of what a searcher may want for a particular keyword. I don't think it is "reasoned" quite like that by the algorithm though.

My selective editing on most pages does provide value because I eliminate the trashy and worthless sites. But bots have difficulty with this subtle distiction.

The site, and particularly the Women's Wear pages, have been developing a "non-referred" following but I'm afraid have not yet reached a tipping point where they could survive without a Google listing. It is beginning to appear that there is no easy path back to where I was, I will have to reconstitute the entire effort. This will in the long run produce a far superior Andilinks but at a greater cost. Oh well.

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Old 08-01-2005, 07:16 PM   Postid: 136613
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Re: Banned from Google

Well, trying to "fix" the old site for Google while it still continues to produce with Yahoo and MSN could easily backfire and yield something that nobody wants.

Trying to build a new site with components of the old while trying to "fool" Google into thinking it's not me is also a bad idea.

So I'm going to build a site with the best components of the old and not hide my identity so I can recapture the former Andilinks following. I will omit as many of the possible penalty-makers as possible on the new site and remove duplicate content on the old site as I build the new. I'm not sure if directly linking to the new site from the old is a good idea. I'll see if that gets banned too and if it does I will then have at least partially identified some trouble making components.

There are a lot of complex possibilities here so I must proceed carefully, building websites as experiments can get costly...

Comments are appreciated.

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Old 08-02-2005, 07:45 AM   Postid: 136641
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Re: Banned from Google

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> Perhaps Andi is a victim of 302 redirect hijacking?

Yes, I've been hearing of these for some time, though I don't entirely understand how they work or what the remedy is.
As an example, here is a probable case:
Hijacked Pages Equals Google Ban
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