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Old 01-18-1999, 11:50 PM   Postid: 915
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Be careful with that, everytime the user formats his hard drive, he gets a new (random) serial number. My fiance goes to Virginia Tech and they have a program called Transom Jack and it uses the serial number, well to make a long story short, someone accidently formatted the drive and Jack didn't work and the company who writes the software wanted to charge another $500 to replace the key.

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Old 01-19-1999, 12:00 AM   Postid: 916
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There's a small DOS program somewhere to change the drive serial assigned by dos/windows-format. Many times, it saves the day

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Old 01-19-1999, 12:08 AM   Postid: 917
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I forgot about formatting - I do that every time I decide to reinstall. That would screw things up. I would gladly give the paying user a new code, provided that I can verify it's them, but I think I'll stay away from that idea for now.

Anyway, I just silently uploaded a recompiled version that will not accept that reg number or a name with spaces, brackets, etc. That will kill future users' ability to use that code. I hope. Of course, there is no other difference (except that I forgot to change the file date).

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Old 01-19-1999, 12:22 AM   Postid: 918
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I never knew jus how detailed the stats were (hey, stats spelled backwards is stats! Just like racecar!)

Anyway, I didn't know it would show the search strings. I have had a lot of people looking for "vdj studio crack", "virtual dj serial", etc., and I guess they ended up at my site... Wierd. WHy would they go to my site after looking for a crack? Well, a few did anyway. All at altavista, too.

But no links so far from www.crackstore.com, and there is a link on that site. That's good, I guess.
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Old 01-19-1999, 01:32 AM   Postid: 919
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The creator of THIS PAGE or the ISP(s) hosting any content on this site take NO responsibility for the way you use the information provided on this site.These files and anything else on this site are here for private purposes only and SHOULD NOT BE DOWNLOADED OR VIEWED WHATSOEVER! If you are affiliated with any government, or ANTI-Piracy group or any other related group or were formally a worker of one you CANNOT enter this web site, cannot access any of its files and you cannot view any of the HTML files. All the objects on this site are PRIVATE property and are not meant for viewing or any other purposes other then bandwidth space. DO NOT ENTER whatsoever! If you enter this site you are not agreeing to these terms and you are violating code 431.322.12 of the Internet Privacy Act signed by Bill Clinton in 1995 and that means that you CANNOT threaten our ISP(s) or any person(s) or company storing these files, cannot prosecute any person(s) affiliated with this page which includes family, friends or individuals who run or enter this web site. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE TERMS THEN LEAVE.
oh boy! It is late here, but i got caught up in this conversation. I am curious, it didn't seem like these people were American. What does this mean anyways? Does this legalize "stealing?"

and what is the logic in this?
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All the objects on this site are PRIVATE property and are not meant for viewing or any other purposes other then bandwidth space.
maybe this is none of my business. I just don't understand the why's to all of this. *not that i really want to*

But if this is all meant to be personal.. why have a web site pertaining to it at all?

Well Justin, you seem to hold a good conversation, and your talent seems to have not been shattered. Looks like you might have learned a few important things. So, maybe all in all this was not so bad, huh?

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Old 01-19-1999, 02:38 AM   Postid: 920
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The "disclaimer" is pretty much standard for a warez / cracks site. I believe they all copied the same one and pasted it on their web page.

The thing I don't get is that their host has an "Acceptable Use Policy" very similar to FQ's. I know FQ wouldn't let someone have a domain called crackstore.com on their servers, but this bridge.net does. What do they expect to find at crackstore.com anyway? Windshield repair kits?

I haven't received a reply from the host, the cracker himself, the webmaster, or the administrative contact of the domain, and I don't really expect one either. Either way, that particular crack won't work in the downloadable version now, which is another reason I like having my file hosted under my complete control (another thread), and not on ftp sites all over. 10 minutes and it's recompiled and ready to upload.

I knew from the beggining of VDJ that eventually I'd find a crack or key generator, and that's not what bugs me about this. My problem is that version 1.30 wasn't that great - many bugs and installation problems. So I didn't expect it to be cracked. Version 1.40, just released on the 15th, is a thousand times better, and I didn't change the algorithm for the reg codes. The crack is for 1.30, but of course works with 1.40.

I figured on at least a couple of weeks before a crack, and since I thought there wasn't one for 1.30, there was no need to change the algorithm and put my 11 regged users through having to get a new code.

Now I'm worried that these 11 users will be the only ones to register. Go to AltaVista and you can find it easily, probably at a lot more sites than just the one.

So basically, 1.30 didn't generate a lot of money because it had many bugs, and now 1.40 won't because it's been cracked before it was released. Maybe version 1.50 will do better...

I'm worrying over nothing. I know that the guys who made WinAmp have lots of cash, and until recently, there was no limitation at all in the unregistered version. It was like honesty-ware. And people paid. I guess there are some good people on the web yet.

My talent will NOT be shattered by some lamer wannabe's that can't pay me 30 lousy bucks for my program so I can get a carton of smokes I always have and always will look at a challenge as an opportunity.

I'm into electronics, and when someone tells me that something can't be done, I ask "Why not?" The response is always "Because I've never seen it done." Ok, that's when I figure out how and prove it. Same thing with programming. I was told by a few poeple that the whole idea of VDJ was dumb and that I couldn't do it. Ha! I love a challenge. Unfortunately, so do crackers. "This program is crack proof!" Oh, yeah? They will spend many hours/days/weeks to prove otherwise. I've been there, so I know.

They will continue to challenge me, I will continue to challenge them. I'm not fighting the battle, I'm just presenting them with newer challenges, and vice-versa. It may wind up being fun. "Crack this!" "Defeat this!"

Most of your better crackers (like Fravia+) will not post a crack when they figure it out. They will show you how to do it. Lamers, just looking for an easy way to avoid paying, will not find what they want, and will move on or, hopefully, break down and purchase. And the people who do this sort of cracking would never have purchased anyway.

But those who search the net for an easy, ready made crack, maybe would if their search turned up nothing. That's what ticks me off. The lamers.

Well, I've done it again - I've made this page take forever to load due to rambling. Sad part is I talk like this, too

Thanks, everyone, for all of the replies. It's helped me to cool down a lot. That and turning off Slayer and putting on VDJ to play random tunes



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Old 01-19-1999, 11:12 AM   Postid: 921
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Here's another method, but I'm not sure if I like it yet

Office 2000, I've heard, REQUIRES you to register the program with the Microsoft web site within the first 50 runs, or it disables itself.

Doesn't matter that you have a "valid" serial number, doesn't matter that whether you used a krack or not.

The combination of needing a serial number in the beginning to use it in the first place (thought about a time-limited demo? people like those , and then enforced registration would make it hard to circumvent. Especially so, if you scatter that code all over the place and make it hard to find.

If the registration takes place using a serial number or registration that is not in your internal database, you shut down the application and disable it unless they call you for a real SN and stuff.

I think a notice like "If you like the program enough to launch it 50 times, please consider paying for it instead of using an illegal crack. I worked hard to bring you a quality program and it's not that much- $30 is the price of 3 pizzas!"

Ok, had to get my Apple background in there.. think: iMac for 3 pizzas a month.

Anyhow.. I still haven't decided as an end-user how I like enforced registration, but I understand its use and I imagine it will quite effective... it makes writing a crack for a program that much harder.
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Old 01-20-1999, 12:54 AM   Postid: 922
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duh man i just read that disclaimer liek DUH man if the files arent even meant to be viewed then why put up a publicaly accessable site DUH!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a bunch of baloney what a joke yeh like peope reading that really arnt gonna go look - it;s an open invitation to browse and download HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA like DOOOOOOH
yeh then they put a big fat enter link doooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh geez like pahlees!!
Yeh lkikje I have files I dont want anyone looking at on a public site with a big fat enter sign - yeh wahtever - it;s pretty onvious what its all about.


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Old 01-20-1999, 02:30 AM   Postid: 923
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Letter from the web host to the site owner:
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Hello Filip.
Please take care of this letter. If you have any questions to Justin,
the programmer who contacted us, please write him directly with CC to
me. Please take care of this ASAP.
Thank you. Vlad.

Justin Nelson, SFE Inc. wrote:
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> Hello,
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> I am a shareware author, and I have found illegal content on a site,
> www.crackstore.com, and you are listed as the technical and billing contact
> for this domain. This site is full of registration codes, including one for
> one of MY programs, and cracks, serial numbers, etc. I would like this site
> removed or dealt with otherwise.
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> Please let me know if action will be taken. Thank you.
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> Sincerely, Justin Nelson, SFE Inc.
> http://www.vdj.net
> Info@VDJ.Net
Well, something was done - at least started. I guess they CC's the letter to me to show that something was being done. I don't think they're in the US, though. But either way, the crack is still there (useless in the version on my site now).

Just though I'd update. Thank all of you for the replies, too. You've all helped me a lot, and kept me from throwing anything large


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Old 01-22-1999, 05:22 AM   Postid: 924
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Hello, everyone. Just thought I'd let 'yall know that the crack has been removed from the site and the site owner told me to let him know if I ever find another crack on his site that relates to me and he'll remove it. That's cool, I guess.

I think they want to avoid trouble, even if there's nothing I can do legally. I guess it wasn't as big a deal as I thought

A friendly email is all it took.

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