SMTP

*Hunkorama417* · 04-03-2001, 10:59 PM

Is SMTP down because I can't send e-mail; however, I can check it. My account is fbhm.com and is on NINE.
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Andrew
www.digi-FX.net
andrew@digi-fx.net

**Deb** · 04-03-2001, 11:04 PM

Have you gone over this tutorial yet?
http://www.aota.net/Troubleshooting/port25.php3

Let us know...

Deb
- What other things come in a can?

**Bob** · 04-06-2001, 05:35 PM

Hello,

A related article I found today, that basically states that Earthlink, MindSpring and now MSN have all implemented Port 25 Blocking.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...62.html?tag=lh

My understanding is that you may still set your From: address as your FutureQuest account email address, however it appears that MSN's blocking may be causing some problems for, Hmmm Outlook, Users

Anyway, thought I'd provide this just for additional information.

Have a Good One
Bob

- Funny, MSN causes Outlook users to have problems ??

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**Terra** · 04-06-2001, 07:01 PM

What now is a serious problem, is the fact that MSN is not helping their customers to understand the situation...  We now have these site owners hitting our EMS wanting an explanation and for us to fix the problem ASAP...

Even when we explain the situation, it does not matter, their mail server is not working and they are paying for it too work...  I will say though that it usually doesn't escalate to this point until their ISP has blown them off...  At this point - they are drowning and just looking for someone to throw them a hand...

Port 25 blocking is not the solution to Spam, as they are just like roaches scurrying from one ISP to another...  The only thing it really does is shift the tech support/complaints from the ISP's to the Web Hosts providing email services...  The big ISP's can just say 'TOUGH' it's against our policy - we can't help you...  For every customer they lose to this, I'm sure they'll sign up 6 more newbies in the meantime...

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Terra
--FutureQuest is not so much what we are - but rather what we are not--
FutureQuest

Maynard · 04-06-2001, 09:31 PM

It seems that port 25 blocking does go a long way toward stopping the interjection of spam into the system; more of this benefit than the collateral damage attributal thereto.

UUnet was reported by SC at over 17.000 abuses a week for the last several months. Today they're down to 6,000.

Since header analysis clearly shows that uunet dialups were reaching korean open relays directly, port 25 blocking at uunet is the only reason why the spammers left there; they weren't tossed off.

There may be other reasons why they ended up at PSI and gridnet

*sheila* · 04-06-2001, 09:39 PM

Well, here's an article at Cnet about the MSN port blocking:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=mn_hd

Boy, I sure hope Verizon (my ISP) doesn't follow suit anytime soon.

*Hunkorama417* · 04-07-2001, 12:37 AM

Well now I know why I can't send e-mail from my FutureQuest account. I have a few possible work-arounds and hopefully they'll work.

I simply loath Micro$oft.

bellgamin · 04-07-2001, 04:19 AM

Whoo baby, I did the telnet business IAW Deb's troubleshooting tutorial & it went perfect. Man am I stoked! I mean... I can't walk & chew gum at the same time, but I actually pulled it off.

Anyway, enough of the nonsense, I have a question. Namely...

MY port 25 tested free & clear, so I can send. But what if my recipient is on MSN -- will my message to him/her be blocked?

Aloha from Ewa Beach,
Bellgamin

**Terra** · 04-07-2001, 05:12 AM

Nope, email will flow properly from our servers to theirs...

They are only blocking _their_ customers ability to send mail through any other SMTP servers but theirs...

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Terra
--I'm sure glad that I'm not on MSN's front line--
FutureQuest

*lowriskjeff* · 07-24-2001, 12:01 PM

OK, I am having trouble sending mail from my lowrisk.com domain. I can receive it no problem.

I went through the "port 25" tutorial, ran the telnet test and "could not open a connection". Tried it with both my domain name and my IP, same result.

Called up my ISP, a small local ISP called outerbounds.net and they said they are NOT blocking port 25. The tech I talked to was very sure about it.

Is there anything else that could be causing the problem? I have double checked my email settings, but if they were the issue I should be able to connect via telnet.

Jeff