UBB Demo Install Problems

[Darth]

Hey everybody.

Not a good day for me (although everything FutureQuest is loading faster! : ) Hurray and good job).

I've been trying to install the UBB demo on my site. After beating my head against the wall until it fell off and rolled under the sink, I finally figured out that my username and password were the ones clearly documented in the installation instructions.

<sigh> and <arggg!> at the same time.

Well, now the majority of the scripts seem to be working, but whenever the actual post to invoke the BB happens ...

... /Ultimate.cgi?action=intro

I just end up with a blank page (or a page that is trying to load forever, I should say).

I've CHMODed my little heart out, but I can't seem to figure out what's going on.

Has anyone here seen or heard of this problem?

Thanks for your time.


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Andy Tuttle
"Life is too important to be taken seriously" (with thanks to Oscar Wilde)

[Del]

Hi Andy. If you'd post the URL to your UBB, I'll go have a look and see if I spot anything. If the page looks like it's trying to load, chances are it's not a permissions problem.

Also, check your error logs (logs_weg and logs_cgi) they may provide some insights as to what's going on.



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Del
www.downinit.com

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[Justin]

I just installed the freeware version on my site because I like it a LOT better than Matt's free script. However, I will not say it was easy.

Their directions on their site and in the script itself were contradictory, especially in the area of the whole 775 cgi thing. I finally got it to work by making a directory below the www root and making it 777 as well as the variable files inside it, then changing the paths in all CGI files, where it says require= to show the full path, e.g. /big/dom/xvdj/ubbfiles/mods.file

Finally, I am very happy with it. Sure, the email, cookies, closing threads, deleting posts, etc., is disabled, but overall it has the same look and feel as this one. I like it. It beats the crap out of Matt's free WWWBoard script (no offence).

Justin
http://www.vdj.net/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi

[Del]

Don't forget, there's a "how to install UBB on FQuest" tutorial thingus at http://www.downinit.com/stuff/ubb.html



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Del
www.downinit.com

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[Justin]

Ok, your tutorial says that the variable files CAN go in the cgi-bin and will work at 755 - are you sure? I'm not doubting you, but... well... umm... are you sure? I didn't try it, because I've always heard that it wouldn't work. Of course, I am using the free version... maybe there's a difference.

Anyway, doesn't matter anyway, mine works as it is, so I'm happy. I did notice that the links still say "BypassCookie=True", even though there is no cookie support. Reminds me of shareware - the features are probably there and just not enabled. That's odd, on an open source thing like a perl script. I could be wrong about that, but I also noticed that some files that are "not included in the free version" are there...

Anyway, if it gets popular on my site, I am going to get the licenced version. What do you recomend - lease or purchase? I'm not sure about that one.

I guess I should cross that bridge when I come to it.

Justin

[Del]

Remember, that tutorial-ish thing is 'how to install on FutureQuest'. In other words, Do not try this at home! er, wait... What I mean is, it'll only probably work on machines that Terra has built, cause as near as I can tell he's the only guy that builds em right. You see, Terra is running a highly modified suEXEC wrapper, which basicly gives all scripts running under your domain the same ID as you. Therefore, you don't need to set the permissions to world writable on everything, thus allowing the variable files to safely live in the cgi-bin at mode 755

Or, now that it's too late to make a short post, Trust me, it works *g* I installed my free UBB ( http://www.downinit.com/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi ) by following my own directions *grin* I've also installed a 'real' UBB (not free) using the same directions.

As for the 'lease or buy' question, the answer is most assuredly a resounding LEASE! Reasoning is simple, when you buy it, your upgrade-ability is only valid for one year. After that, to get the latest version, you gotta buy it again. When you lease it, you can only use it for a year To get the latest version after that, you gotta lease it again (sound similar?) The only difference is that when you lease it instead of buy it, you're paying like $100 less!

Okay, done blathering now.



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Del
www.downinit.com

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[Terra]

lease...

Deb has a heated discussion on this topic, forget where though, just search for it...

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Terra
--It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood--
FutureQuest

[Justin]

Do not try this at home!

Hehe - that's funny. I did try it at home Good old Apache for Win32 and Perl 5.something. Worked nicely, too.

Ok, I didn't realize how that worked - in other words, it's the equivelant of me writing to the file when the script does so. I like that. Actually, any other way wouldn't make sense. Why would a script be considered "World" anyway? I put the script there, so obviously I trust it, right?

It all makes sense now. Del - I was not doubting you at all, I just needed clarification, and Now I know Sorry if I sounded like I was doubting you. I have very little experience with CGI/Perl and this is all still pretty new to me. I'm learning fast as heck, though, and I couldn't possibly ask for a better server to learn on (although I've been learning "at home" first, just in case I cause a crash or something )

Boy, I really am tired. I only ramble like this when I am. I'm the only one to post so far on my UBB and it's full of my ramblings That's ok, though. It's my freakin' UBB, and I'll ramble if I want to (spare you guys the torment!)

Justin

[Justin]

I have a question now. It's sort of a moral thing, I guess, and sort of like a loophole.

I have been hunting aroung in the free script files and I have found that most of the functionality is there from the paid version, it's just not enabled. Now, in the license agreement, it says that I am free to modify this script to fit my own purposes, as long as I don't distribute it to anyone or try to sell it. That's all fine.

My question is, if I "Crack" it, make all of the features work, It should be within their license agreement, legally anyway, is that ok to do? I would be modifying it for my own use only, and if they include features that aren't enabled, my enabling them would only be modifications to the code for my own use.

Right??

It wouldn't legally be any different than if I added these features on my own. I saw stuff in there relating to Emailing lost passwords, cookies and "Show topics from the last xx days", all stuff that is not "in" the free version.

Just curious - I don't want to do anything to it until I'm sure that it's legal - It sounds right to me, though, and it's all in accordance with their license agreement...

Justin

oops - Showing Topics... is there anyway. The other stuff isn't, though.

[This message has been edited by Justin (edited 02-01-99).]

[Dean B]

I'd tread very carefully there Justin ..


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