Software request --> Jed

gtc · 02-20-2001, 03:40 PM

Hi,

I'd very much like to see the editor Jed installed on Rasmus. I tried to install it locally, but it needs S-Lang. The reason is that it has console-mode text hilighting and a PHP mode. Also, its pretty small and resource-friendly. IMHO, a much better option than gnu emacs (huge, no PHP mode, no color).

The website is: http://space.mit.edu/~davis/jed

Thanks for your consideration of this request.
Geoff
[This message has been edited by gtc (edited 02-20-01@3:43 pm)]

**Terra** · 02-20-2001, 04:54 PM

Done...

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gtc · 02-20-2001, 05:18 PM

Holy smokes that was fast! I hate to be a pest after such great service. But,

the version you installed is 98.7. The latest version is 99.13. I think PHP support is
not available for version 98.x.

Precompiled Redhat binaries (in rpm format) as well as binaries for Debian are available from http://cpbotha.net/jedstuff/

The PHP mode website is http://www.four04.com/phpmode/index.html

What do you think about a newer version?
Geoff (looking the gift horse in the mouth!)

**Terra** · 02-20-2001, 05:32 PM

I will have to pull the source RPM's and perform a full security audit before I will allow external packages in the core...

This could take me up to two weeks to perform (or more) as my plate is pretty full right now and auditing code the Jed code is not on that list...

However, you can try to perform a local install into your account...  I used to do this on other hosts that had brain damaged OS's like IRIX (iccckk) with sysAdmins that didn't really give a hoot...

One more note - if you are looking for PHP syntax highlighting, then give 'mcedit' a spin...  It's a quick and dirty editor that I use a lot...

My apologies for the scrutiny, but external RPM's are the perfect vehicle for trojan horses and whatnot...  Even if it was built by the software author themself - that doesn't mean that they aren't runnin a vulnerable version of WU-FTPD / ProFTPd / BIND / etc and had the packages switched...  I've seen it happen one too many times...

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**Terra** · 02-20-2001, 05:38 PM

I just caught on that you already tried a local install...

Yeah, S-Lang is a mixed bag of nuts with lobotomies from one version to the next... I have to grapple with it myself from time to time when building Midnight Commander...

What I will do is load the S-Lang development libraries up on Rasmus, and you should be able to link against it then...

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Terra
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gtc · 02-20-2001, 06:01 PM

Terra,

Thanks again for the quick responses. I'll try the local compile again with the S-Lang libs you installed.

I can fully understand your auditing procedures (after all, I use OpenBSD for my unix-like boxen!).

Are you doing everything RPM for easy deinstall/upgrades across the board (as opposed to source tarballs)?

I'll give mcedit a spin. I see you can set it to emacs keybindings, which is a must for me (but is a PITA when I type ^E to go to the end of the line in MS Word!).

Geoff

gtc · 02-20-2001, 06:13 PM

Ok -- still no go on the recompile because you have slang-devel-1.2.2-5; jed says it needs 1.3.11 or better. Redhat.com has slang-devel-1.4.1-5 available:

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/redh...4.1-5.i386.rpm

Thanks again,
Geoff

Justin · 02-20-2001, 07:12 PM

I used to use the Midnight Commander's text editor exclusively, but for the last month I've been stuck on a machine without mcedit. I've been using vim, and it hilites PHP code quite nicely. Unlike mcedit, it is even aware of escaped quotes, and it hilites all PHP built-in functions. Just use :syntax on, or put syntax on in your .vimrc file.

It was hard getting used to vim, but I find it to be quite a powerful editor now (I never was into the vi vs emacs thing before, but I now see what a real text editor is all about

)

I just realized, on the SIX server at least, vim 5.3 is installed and doesn't seem to do PHP hiliting, nor does it do color hiliting in general (just bold and underline). On the other machine (non-FQ), we're at version 5.6... I don't know what would be on RASMUS, but it's probably newer. I also noticed none of my own systems seem to have it installed at all...

Anyway, hope this helps.

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Justin Nelson
SFE Software

**Terra** · 02-20-2001, 07:31 PM

For core related GNU utilities like this, I keep it stock RedHat-6.2 as this helps tremendously with keeping all of the servers in alignment...  The RPM's I install are from the Update pool, and if not exist - Stock pool...  I ensure md5 and pgp checksums before any installation...

I have my hands full enough with my all of my custom builds with the Kernel / Apache / PHP / Perl / DNS / QMAIL / etc / etc / etc....

RedHat-7.0 won't work on our servers for 3 reasons:
1) incompatible glibc library
2) (what were they thinking) gcc compiler that is also not binary compatible...
3) I'm not even crazy enough to attempt it...

For production use - RH-6.2 has proven to be outstanding in utility stability...

Due to the issues that have arisen - I'm afraid that I am going to have to deny the updated 'Jed' request (in the core) as it will deviate further from the core of others than I'm willing to go...  Many utilities are dependent on the S-Lang libraries and updating it will most likely cause breakage - which causes a domino effect of tracking all dependent programs down and recompiling them (insert long endless circle of madness here)...

Since your problem is S-Lang, then why don't you go ahead and download the correct version and compile that locally yourself then link to that local copy...  With Midnight Commander on IRIX, I just statically linked them together, while still dynamically linking to the server C library...

Hope this helps, as our servers _can_ do what you desire - just not directly from the core...

Justin, I can never get into a 'vi' or 'emacs' holy war as I choose abstinence from both of those mind numbing play twister on the keyboard style macro'd megalomaniac editors...  Personally - I'm a point'n'click kinda guy...

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Terra
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*jimbo* · 02-20-2001, 07:45 PM

I was talking to the VALinux people at the Linux World Expo in NYC a few weeks ago, and I asked why they weren't shipping systems w/ RedHat 7.0 - the guy laughed and said that RH7.0 is one of the buggiest, unstable Linux dist's out there. He said that many hardware vendors (such as VALinux) are po'd that they released 7.0, because they took all the glibc & gcc stuff out of the development tree and packaged them up as new and stable, which it wasn't.

We had upgraded to RH7.0 @ work a few months ago - and I could never get Linuxconf to work right. It would do what it was supposed to, but everytime I tried getting out of it, it would attempt to re-mount the CD-ROM (?), and would mess up all the filesystems in the process - as well as screwing with permissions. Basically, I had to re-boot the server everytime I tried to use Linuxconf to do something. Now I just leave it running all the time on alt-F5

. And I installed Webmin (ick).

Yeah, so judging by my experiences and by what I've heard people say, I really hope FQuest doesn't go to RedHat7.0 anytime soon.

-jim