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Nathalie
08-22-2001, 11:04 AM
Help! :waa:
I am looking for a script where a pop up box will appear after leaving the website. I found a couple but they all pop up even though I am just navigating through the site. I need one where it only pops up if you close the window totally or put a new URL into the address, not if I only surf the same website.

Thanks for any help.
Nats :hehe:

Tibbits
08-22-2001, 11:19 AM
type for word 'sex' into a search engine and you'll find thousands of examples of scripts like this.

bturner
08-22-2001, 12:43 PM
pop-ups when exiting a site are the most loathsome tricks around. You will make more enemies than friends if you choose to use them.

These days, exit pop-ups are most commonly associated with porn sites. Think about that. :)

PaulKroll
08-22-2001, 01:20 PM
Time's site does this too. Which is one reason I no longer go to it.

dank
08-22-2001, 01:26 PM
I think I commented on this in another thread, but more and more large sites are going to popups (when entering, not exiting). I imagine it's a sign of the times with banner advertising being viewed as so ineffective that ads need to be more in your face...

Dan

janderk
08-22-2001, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by dank:
more and more large sites are going to popups (when entering, not exiting). I imagine it's a sign of the times with banner advertising being viewed as so ineffective that ads need to be more in your face... Popups is a clear sign of sites going under. IMHO it will only accelerate the process.

Popups will only temporary increase the click through rate. At this time next year there will be popup blindness beside banner blindness. I guess people will either all have popup killers installed or have great popup closing reflexes. These will be so automatic that after 10 seconds they won't even know that the site had popups.

Companies have to make money from different resources to stay alive.

JD

dank
08-22-2001, 04:03 PM
Popups is a clear sign of sites going under.
Well, a few of the sites I've seen them on recently, off the top of my head, include google (only a couple of times; either an infrequent test type of thing or some strange super delayed popup from exiting another site), espn, and cbs.sportsline. I think msnbc might have also been in that group. If these sites' use of popups is indicative of them being about to go under, then they might as well pull the plug on all of us.

Dan

Tibbits
08-22-2001, 06:27 PM
A new technique being used is 'pop-under' where the new window opens in the background, so rather than close it before it can load (which is certaintly what I always do) it loads in the background and is only displayed whne you close the window.

dank
08-22-2001, 06:37 PM
That hidden popup thing really baffles me. I usually notice it as soon as the browser gets jumpy like its trying to refresh or focus and I close the "popup" immediately. If not, I notice it when closing the main window and instinctively close the popup window because I know it isn't something I had intended on being there. Either way, I don't have a clue what the window contained after the fact, making it by far the least effective advertising I've seen. Subliminal popups...

Dan

Tibbits
08-22-2001, 06:56 PM
Subliminal popups.. now that's an idea.. for example a popup that contains the words "Buy Coca-Cola" in large letters that closes itself leaving just enough time for the message to bury itself in your subconsious.. I think I'll try experimenting with 'Kill Your Grandmother", the success being easily verifiable by watching the news.

janderk
08-22-2001, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by dank:
Well, a few of the sites I've seen them on recently, off the top of my head, include google (only a couple of times; either an infrequent test type of thing or some strange super delayed popup from exiting another site), espn, and cbs.sportsline. I think msnbc might have also been in that group. If these sites' use of popups is indicative of them being about to go under, then they might as well pull the plug on all of us. I just checked MSNBC and oh my. That's the last time I went there. My estimate is that this is gonna cost them a significant amount of visitors.

And for Google. I never saw any popup's there. (what does not mean they don't exist). Some popups just minimize themselves to make them invisible and reappear after minutes or more. If you are a sleazy site that's a way to cover your tracks.

IMHO Google is much to smart to use popups. They use textual sponsored links. These are much more effective than banners or popups. Just search for flowers (http://www.google.com/search?q=flowers) to see an example.

I should probably elaborate somewhat. My theory (I have known to be wrong before) is that no descent site would use popups if they wouldn't really need it. Everybody know they score very high on the visitor's irritation scale. They would only do it if the financial situation is forcing them. That's why I say it is the beginning of the end.

And yes I think several of the big boys have to fire part of their staff. And no that does not mean we are all in danger. It's just not as easy as it used to be.

JD

MTDesigns
08-22-2001, 07:49 PM
'pop-under'

My only experience with a pop-under is through Burstmedia's ads. I tried it on my site once, but for some reason the pop-under worked like a pop-up, and as it popped up it opened up every single other window I had minimized (which was many). It was very annoying to say the least ...If it annoyed me, imagine how much it annoyed my visitors. I ended up deselecting that particular campaign immediately.

I don't think the pop-under ads are as offensive as the pop-up ads, but unfortunately I usually end up closing those too :\ .

Best always,

Joi~

Tatu
08-22-2001, 11:44 PM
I can't remember the last time I've actually looked at a pop-up. I zap them before they load. The only ones that succeeded at me remember them are the two most common: X10 and the "You have 1 message!!" ones.

I really don't mind pop-ups if they are not excessive (4 at a time or one on every single page of a website).

thudfactor
08-23-2001, 03:16 PM
The popups and such really drive me nuts; I bought some ad blocking software and installed it my machines at home -- now, for the most part, I never see them [rant] (http://www.thudfactor.com/writing.php?show=7).

I try to turn off the software when I visit smaller sites with decent advertising policies. If a lot of the small sites start using them... then I guess I'll just have to leave it on all the time. :-(

Oh -- as for popunders, my fiancee frequents a message board that was hosted through some third-party service. It started using popunders to advertise to her, and loaded one every time she hit the front page. Without her knowledge, she ended up with 15, 16 copies of the X-10 ad under her browser. If you're going to do a popunder, be careful of your code.