GIF to binary?

[cybercrone]

Well, now I got a whole new problem that's more urgent than the logging into CNC Telnet. Under Filequest, I uploaded a bunch of GIF files and the way I read the info on uploading, I thought Filequest would automatically convert them to binary, but apparently this ain't so? I don't know how to convert the files to binary. Eveything else under Ikonboard is working fine so far but I need those GIFs. :( Sigh.

[Joe]

Cybercrone,

I don't know what you mean by FileQuest "automatically convert them to binary", but if you leave it for the CNC to upload through 'Auto Detect', it should upload them as binary files. If you want to be absolutely sure, you can choose the Upload As 'binary' option yourself. When I upload GIF files via the CNC I tend to select the 'binary' option rather than leave it to 'Auto Detect'.

Wow! That must be a first. I've actually answered a technical question. :P

Joe.

[cybercrone]

Oh, boy, do I feel stupid. There it is in the dropdown box: binary. I re-uploaded the files choosing that option but they still appear with the GIF extension -- I thought if they wre uploaded as binary the extension would be changed, so maybe they uploaded as binary under the autodetect as well. But the icons are not showing up in my Ikonboard window. I know they are in the right folder. What could my problem be?

[Bob]

Hi again :)

Actually, it does appear that all of your images have been uploaded properly, as if you view, /ikonboard/images/ they are all there and render properly when you view them.

You may have a setting within your Installation of IkonBoard that is not calling them properly. As it appears that you may be calling them via this: /ikonboard//images/logo.gif

I hope this helps,
Bob

- One of those times when Two isn't better then One :\ -

[Deb]

Within your ikonboard it is looking for the images using an incorrect path....

For example:

On your ikonboard one of the images it is looking for shows the URL as:

http://www.wordsculptors.com/www/ikonboard//images/announce.gif

The image is actually located at:
http://wordsculptors.com/ikonboard/images/announce.gif

Notice that in the first URL, the incorrect one, there is a /www/ directory listed while the correct URL does not require this.

You will need to double check the paths entered to ensure they are correct because right now it is looking in the wrong area.

As far as .gif extensions. This defines what type of file it is. The format uploaded will not change the extension. They were however uploaded in binary form both times ;)

Deb
- Beginners Luck

[Joe]

Cybercrone,

Go into your admincenter and in your Variables set up, take out the trailing slash that Bob has highlighted.

This is what it says there:

Images URL
Do not add '/images' on the end

Joe.

[Bob]

Hi again :)

It actually appears to be a double problem !

Calling the images from /www as well as the double "//"

They would be properly called from /ikonboard/images/
without the /www and without the double"//" just a single will do.

Thanks Deb for pointing out the /www as it escaped my attention.

Hope this helps further
Bob

- Sometimes, when you see one problem, it over shadows others :P -

[cybercrone]

Thank you all! I'll deal with this in the morning. Placement of files in the directories you found them in was the only way the Ikonboard installer would accept them -- it took me quite a long time to get things 'right' (as far as the installer was concerned) this afternoon. I wondered about that double slash, but the installer put it there, not me, so I said Hey, it must know what it is doing. %) I'll make the changes you suggest in the mroning, and thanks again for the excellent support I always find here (I know you get sick of hearing that ;) ). I went through three hosts before ending up here, and all three did not have bad support, they had NO support. I mean, ZERO. So I do appreciate you!

P.S. Oh yeah, the reason I said I know they're in the right folder is because of what I said above -- the way I got 'em is the only way the installer would let me configure things. ????????? It never occurred to me the installer might goof up.

[Terra]

Double slashes (or more) are esoteric, but will not break Apache's ability to parse the URL as it has built in logic to collapse dup slashes...

Same goes for Linux filesystem file paths...

--
Terra
--overall, it is always better to do it right the first time as otherwise only denotes a lack of attention to detail--
FutureQuest

<EDIT: moved perceived retentive comment to tag to avoid confusion so that body remains focused fact of the matter>

[Bob]

Nope, Never get tired of hearing Thanks as that's half the pay :)

But don't forget that half the support is from fellow site owners%)

Thank you and Good Luck,
Bob

- Which is why I only get half a paycheck :P I am joking on this one, about the paycheck :o -

[Deb]

Just to clarify... the images are correctly uploaded to the correct directory

As JB noted the only thing you need to do is visit the admincenter and in your Variables set up correct the images url to point to the right directory.

Where you see:

Images URL
Do not add '/images' on the end

Make sure this is set to:

http://wordsculptors.com/ikonboard

That should fix it :)

Deb
- We Hope ;)

[cybercrone]

Terra wrote: "Overall, it is better to do it right the first time as otherwise only denotes a lack of attention to detail... "

What marvelous advice. Do it right the first time! Why didn't I think of that?

Please don't respond to my messages anymore. There are plenty of people here to help who don't feel called upon to be snide.

[Deb]

cybercrone he wasn't I assure you... What Terra was noting is that the single or double slash would not be what was causing the error. It is incorrect but not what the problem was. He also noted that it is best to have it correct rather than incorrect even though it wouldn't matter in the end outside of looking wrong...

Deb
- When it's in ASCII one must allow emotions a great deal of flexibility

[Terra]

I made that comment to denote what the visitors to your website would think...

If you had to goto:
http://www.FutureQuest.net/Service//Desk///Enter/your////comments///here

You would think the URL is broken and done incorrectly... However, Apache will collapse/fold the URL and do the _right_ thing...

I can tell your frustrated with chasing gremlins all day and night long, and by posting them out to our forums, they became immediately clear as to what was and was not the problem... Anyhow, I can see how my comment could have pushed you over the edge, I can assure you it was not meant as such...

--
Terra
--Mistakes and errors are usually invisible to those staring straight at them--
FutureQuest

[Joe]

Hi there Cybercrone,

I've been here long enough (a little over a year) to know that none of the FQ team post snide comments. They're the good guys :). They really are.

Anyway, hope you get your images problem solved soon.

Joe.

[janderk]

Originally posted by cybercrone:
Terra wrote: "Overall, it is better to do it right the first time as otherwise only denotes a lack of attention to detail... "

What marvelous advice. Do it right the first time! Why didn't I think of that?

Please don't respond to my messages anymore. There are plenty of people here to help who don't feel called upon to be snide.

Terra is totally right. Having double slashes in a path name is a plain bug. However, it's one you sometimes get away with. I suggest you repair it instead of attacking Terra for being snide.

You might not know it, but Terra is the FutureQuest tech wizzard who makes/keeps everything running including your web site's server. I would never doubt his (technical) advise. I don't think I know anyone with more knowledge of how a server works than him.

Also, I've never seen any FutureQuest representative being snide. Nothing personal and you are free to disagree, but frankly I think you are the one who owes an apology to Terra for the tone of your response.

Jan Derk

[cybercrone]

This morning I did go to my Ikonboard administrative page and fixed the problem as suggested -- ultimately so simple! In my fatigue last night I got confused between path names and URLs. Sigh.

Again, I truly appreciate the concern and support of people on this forum. I hope at some point I know enough about this stuff to give back some of the help I have received here, both during this episode and in the past.

Last word department:
Regarding Terra's remark: "Overall, it is better to do it right the first time as otherwise only denotes a lack of attention to detail... "

I accept now that Terra didn't mean the remark the way it sounded. However, doubting my perceptions after all these critical responses, I read the message to two of my friends this morning and even included several preceding messages for context, and, without any hesitation or uncertainty, they both saw it as a putdown.

You all have been around here longer and know Terra -- that makes a big difference. Since I DON'T know Terra, and since two other intelligent people understood the remark exactly as I did, I do NOT accept the criticism that implies I should have known what Terra meant regardless of what he said, and I don't owe anyone an apology, as someone suggested, for reading the remark at its face value. As a matter of fact...oh, never mind.

[Terra]

Thats ok, as long as we can agree to disagree... :P

--
Terra
--wait, which one is it? dust in the wind or water under the bridge???--
FutureQuest