Squirrellmail

[janderk]

My ISP has just implemented a new web interface to read email messages. It's based on squirrellmail.

Just wanted to let you know that it looks very very nice. Knowing that FQ is still working on a questmail replacement, Squirrellmail has my vote. I especially like the spamcop plugin. Spam can be reported by just clicking a "Report as spam" link. Great!

Jan Derk

[Monty]

That spamcop feature would be nice in light of the 21 (and still getting them) that I have gotten from "Master CD 2001 Disc - E-Biz Customer Contacts" These guys are setting a new record for spamming me.
I got 4 this morning at the same address, at the same time. :mad:

Mont

[janderk]

That spamcop feature would be nice in light of the 21 (and still getting them) that I have gotten from "Master CD 2001 Disc - E-Biz Customer Contacts" Why not set up a filter in your email program or on the serverr?

I normally do not send more than 1 spam complaint if I recieve spam more than once on a day.

JD

[ryount]

Got a bunch of those myself. I think you can eliminate half of the spam by filtering out:
we don't want to waste your time...or ours
britney spears
find out anything about anyone

[zmax]

Ill have to read up on filtering via the server as I get those **** spams too! Master CD 2001 my ~# ~# !!! :mad:

Anyway Ive come to the conclusion that much of the spammers get thier email addresses from web pages where people put an email link. I will soon but doing away with all email links on my web pages. To be replaced with contact pages that email me via cgi or a NOSPAM email address which the user will have to edit to get the right email.

David
:cool:

[zmax]

Here is the url: http://www.squirrelmail.org/

Would this work like mailreader (mailreader.com) if someone wanted
to install it in thier own cgi-bin area?!
Has anyone looked at the requirements?
http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/wiki.php?SquirrelMailRequirements
Im not up on all the technical thingies and are we all set there?

Thanks.

David
:cool:

-- I dont really smoke, I just like putting it in there now to bug sheila! %)
working on post 101 here....I think though by post 200 I may like
my little guy so much I may not want to change!

[Terra]

SquirrelMail is on our project and deployment path, however they are dependent upon Bruce's POP Toasters...

IOW: it is a smaller piece of a much larger puzzle...

Bruce, any comments on expectations?

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Terra
--Squirrels look innocent enough, until they attack - as seen on FOX--
FutureQuest

[Bruce]

I think that the idea of being able to report spam with a click of a button is a great idea, at least on the surface. It still leaves some questions to be asked. When you click the button, what happens? Does it delete the message in your mailbox? Does it also delete other similar messages in your mailbox? Does it also set up a filter for future mailboxes? What if you mistakenly hit the button on something you meant to keep? Should it go and install a filter for other peoples mailboxes? What if you use this maliciously to cause somebody else to not receive email? From the looks of the SpamCop plugin, they've got a bunch of the other issues figured out.

Squirrelmail does look like a good webmail program, but I haven't kept up much with the what alternatives there are.

I think that server-side filtering is pretty important, and will be a major consideration in the next mail system, but I haven't worked out any of the implementation details or gotchas yet.

BTW, regarding putting "nospam" mailto links on pages, many email address harvestors have long had patterns for stripping out the common methods of doing that kind of thing.

[Terra]

Squirrelmail does look like a good webmail program, but I haven't kept up much with the what alternatives there are.
That homework has already been painstakingly done... ;)

It has already been chosen as our next WebMail core, unless there is something under the hood that is just blatantly wrong... Thus far, I have found it pleasant to use and is pretty much full featured...

I believe it will be a wonderful addition to our offerings and solve many of the 'Roaming' users problems...

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Terra
--If it breaks, just toss it an acorn--
FutureQuest

[janderk]

It has already been chosen as our next WebMail core, unless there is something under the hood that is just blatantly wrong... Nice to hear. I like it uptill know. If something weird happens with the Squirrelmail of my ISP I let you guys know.

think that the idea of being able to report spam with a click of a button is a great idea, at least on the surface. It still leaves some questions to be asked. When you click the button, what happens? As far as I understand it, it is a standard plugin available at the squirrelmail web site. I would say settle for the defaul first. You could always customize it later.

My ISP requires to activate it in the environment options before the "report spam" is activated, preventing unexperienced users from spamcopping by accident.

I think most users will be glad to be able just to send a spam report quickly without fancy advanced features. Adding filters automatically etc. seems like a nice feature, but you have to watch out for feature creep and gold plating. As a developer myself, I have often sinned on the latter :rolleyes:

IMO most users prefer basic web mail functionality available soon over a full featured version available a year later.

Jan Derk

[Terra]

IMO most users prefer basic web mail functionality available soon over a full featured version available a year later.
It is my fear of answering countless: "Why doesn't it do this or that or this other neat thing or that really nifty thing"

for that years development duration... Our STATS package is a perfect example, yet it has thus far done the job of what was asked of it...

One thing that I've learned (firsthand) is that something is almost never "good-enough" no matter how hard one (or a company) tries... However, it is our determination to find a balanced blend of features, capability, flexibility, while preserving sane administration and core/client (untroubled) security...

Our custom CNC is just such an example of compromise... It is robust, well rounded, and easy to use - yet provide sophistication to those that can use it...

That in itself is a tall order to fill... If we can make 94% of our site owner base happy, then I would say we are beating the odds of extinction...

My apologies if my post seem harsh, as I could not find a more tactful way to convey the reality of (behind the curtain) experience as we are trying to push forward in designing new feature sets for everyone to use... The fact of the matter is that we are running into brick walls of balancing power, capability, plus flexibility against the unrelentless non-compromising realm of security...

In short, I'm pounding my head against me desk trying to straddle both realms... :stardanc:

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Terra
--My first and foremost goal is to always do it right the first time--
FutureQuest

[zmax]

Im pleased to hear that squirrelmail will be used as it looks very nice from the website.
Also people dont forget about www.mailreader.com which is also very nice for what it does and will suffice in the meantime!!!! Im using it my cgi-bin and am happy with it.

David
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[OzHeart]

So any dates for the new QuestMail?

Otherwise, has anyone tried to install SquirrelMail in their account? I am dearly in need of such a facility and was wondering if anyone can post a step by step installation guide for such.

Thanks. :o

[Tibbits]

I used to use squirrelmail, it's very good. But my current server is POP only, and since squirrelmail needs IMAP I can't use it amymore. I'd use IMP, only the server doesn't have the c-client libraries for that either.