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Del
12-29-1998, 05:15 AM
Okay, I'll spill the beans... I don't know what half the stuff in my stats means. Ya, certain stuff I can grasp like referrers, ua's, etc... But as far as numbers go, I'm at a loss. Here's what it says for the month of December (so far);

Hits => 20177
Files => 15721
Pageviews => 11181
Sessions => 2050

Would someone please tell me if that's good/bad/indifferent please? Basicly what's going on is that I don't think I have enough money, and I'm considering selling adspace on my domain. However, I know enough about stats that if you have low numbers, it's harder to sell adverts. I know my numbers aren't huge or anything, but are they good enough?

Thanks for any help.


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Terra
12-29-1998, 05:44 AM
Heya Del,

I *KNOW* you knew this was coming... http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif

http://www.netstore.de/Supply/http-analyze/results.html

I couldn't explain it any better than what he has -- plus it has all kinds of pretty pictures too... :p

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Deb
12-29-1998, 05:50 AM
For Dec... so far...

DHearts.org
Hits => 1458209
Files => 759160
Pageviews => 152936
Sessions => 32804

Aota net...
Hits = >104643
Files = >70535
Pageviews = > 13449
Sessions = >3435

You may really want to visit http://www.netstore.de/Supply/http-analyze/results.html for a definition of terms and explanation of what everything means...

An important note to remember is that you do not sell ads by bragging about how many 'hits' your site gets... because most understand now that a "hit" is not a valid calculation for things like this. If you have one page with two images and someone loads it up, it will count as three hits.. because 3 files were called for.

Those buying ads want to know how many unique visits you are receiving... For this you are given a better estimate via your "Pageviews" as this only counts the text files loaded like .html .htm and .txt etc... rather then couting every file.

So from what you are showing it looks like 2,050 visits... as opposed to 20,1777 hits.

Is it enough to sell ads? Who knows.. I've seen worse selling ads.. and I've seen ten times better not make a dime. The key is finding someone willing to pay for ads that you can provide a targetted audience for.

What I do know is that it can not hurt to try http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Deb

Deb
12-29-1998, 05:51 AM
Well phooey.. you did it to me again Terra... :P

Del
12-29-1998, 06:07 AM
Hehehe ya, I knew you'd do that *g* And now I know what all that stuff means! The pics are neat too, is there really a little robot guy with sunglasses inside your server Terra? http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

And there y'all go again, answering posts at the same time *grin*

Ack Deb! You scared me! It's 11,000 pageviews, not 2,000 http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif I thought I had this all figured out, then you threw that at me hehehe



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Sandy
12-29-1998, 10:20 AM
Del,

have you tried any of the affiliate programs?
I've tried most of them out there..if you want to go that way I can tell you which ones pay the best (and which ones don't pay at all) http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Del
12-29-1998, 01:08 PM
Thanks Sandy! I'll visit them all and see what I can come up with http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks

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EWS
12-29-1998, 05:24 PM
Hi everyone! I have some good insight on selling ad space and also a question for FQuest about the stats. First, let me talk about making money from advertising ...

My web site is BIG, it features music, fashion, sports, discussion, more. We get a lot of traffic (20,000+ page views per day) and we "live" off our ad revenues. The average ad rate on the net is between $10 and $20 per 1,000 impressions (CPM). Yahoo makes about $40 CPM. My web site gets less than $3 CPM. It has little to do with traffic, but about the targetted audience. And unfortunatly, since my web site is so big it's hard for us to sell targetted ad space. Therefore, I'm signed up with several advertising networks. Ad networks represent a lot of other advertisers. You place thier code on your pages and ads are randomly displayed. Usually you're paid per click.

We have a great relationship with valueclick.com . I highly recomend ValueClick for selling ad space. If you sign up, my referral code is h0003200 . http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif I'm also with safe-audit.com but I've had some problems with them in the past. They're alright, better than the average ad network.

If you have any questions, maybe I can answer them because I've been involved in the net advertising biz for awhile now. I know, it can be confusing sometimes.

Now, FutureQuest ... what's a GIG? Most web hosts measure traffic with gigs and I'm just wondering what it is compared to Bytes and MBs. My stats show me the KBytes transfered per day. To my understanding, 1,000,000 bytes is a gig. But, I'm probably wrong. hehe.

Deb
12-29-1998, 05:48 PM
/me raises hand and bounces in her chair...

ooh ooohhh I know this one! Pick me Pick me!!
*grin* (sorry I'm in a strange mood today http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif

1 bit = "1" or "0"

8 bits = 1 byte

1024 bytes = 1 kilobyte (kb)

1,048,576 bytes or 1,024(Kb) = 1 megabyte(mb)

1,073,741,824 Bytes or 1,024 mbs = 1 gigabyte(gig or gb)

1,099,511,627,776 Bytes or 1,024 gigs = 1 terrabyte

Seeeee I told you I knew this one http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Deb

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EWS
12-29-1998, 06:20 PM
ok, thanks. heavy stuff. I've never been any good in math. http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif so ... Looking at our stats, it would take roughly 1,000,000 KBytes/day to equal 1 gig per day. right?

Deb
12-29-1998, 06:46 PM
To be exact, it would take 1,048,576 Kbs to equal 1 gig.....

You've not been on the server long enough to have a real accurate idea of how much you will be using on average but so far your largest day has a long ways to go before it reaches a gig of data transfer....

http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif
Deb

Sandy
12-29-1998, 06:51 PM
EWS..what's your url? I didnt see a profile by your name..I wanna see http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif
For $3 CPM..how many banners are on a page?
that price is awesome http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

btw..Safe-Audit used to be ok but they still owe me payments for Aug,Sept & Oct & they keep telling me "the check's in the mail" so I don't use them anymore.

DEB..LOL @ "terrabyte"

Sandy
12-29-1998, 06:54 PM
nevermind..I hit reload and the profile showed up (my computer is retarded)
gonna go look at your site http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Del
12-30-1998, 12:03 AM
Hiya Sandy. I've got a few bannerbrokers snippets around, if that's what you mean by 'affiliates programs' http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif So far they owe me about $2 is all hehehe I've also got the standartd amazon thing, but havent put in any links yet (I like to have things thouroughly thought-out before implementing them. yeah, that's it. yup *s*)

In other words, yes, please, I'd appreciate it if you could share http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks

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Sandy
12-30-1998, 12:48 AM
Del,

there's too many of them to list here but I'll list the good ones http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif
and the ones to stay away from

Banner Brokers is ok..you have to call them & "remind" them to send payment & their click ratio is low.
Safe-Audit owes money to a lot of webmasters..so stay away from them.

Trans Act is great! you can use text links or banners & they pay per "action" instead of click (They pay if someone enters a contest or requests free info) I do pretty good with them.
I cant find their url *sorry duh mode today* LOL
but this is the guy that runs it
irv@smartbiz.com
I'll try & find their affiliate program URL for ya.

Clicktrade is good too
http://www.clicktrade.com
the info is on their site (takes too much space to write it all here)
the only drawback with clicktrade is that if any of the sponsors dont have $ in their acct..clicks go unpaid til they fix it http://www.aota.net/ubb/frown.gif

Value Click is ok..low clickthrough rate and you can't pick which offers you want to run but they are reputable
http://www.valueclick.com

I have a bunch of them on this page of my site too
[URL]http://www.thefreemall.net/money.html{/URL]

Also..Direct Coupons
http://www.directcoupons.com/
has a couple of different programs too..they are good!

agghh sorry to take up all this space!
I'll email you later with more http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Sandy
12-30-1998, 12:50 AM
btw..I like your definition of procrastination LOL!!
I have to remember that one http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif
I thought I had every excuse already for that

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Sandy
12-30-1998, 12:55 AM
Del
here's the URL for TransAct
http://www.smartbiz.com/transact/

Websponsors is similar (they have some of the same offers) there codes are easier to use (copy & paste as opposed to getting graphics from a zip file from TransAct) but they dont have as many offers as TransAct
http://www.websponsors.com