User/Session Management - PHPLIB

[KevinBedell]

I'm currently evaluating a few PHP hosting sites for a development project I'm working on. One of the issues I'm gonig to have to deal with is multiple people logged in and running the application at the same time.

I need to be able to authenticate users via name/password and track their sessions.

I found a PHP Library referenced at www.php3.com - it contains some functionality that it seems I could use to track logins and sessions.

In the docs it states that to use it I need Apache with mod_php set up.

Is this supported at Futurequest?

Here's a link to the manual for the PHPLIB I'm referring to: http://phplib.shonline.de/documentation/documentation-1.html - can someone take a quick glance at it and give their 2 cents worth on whether it could be implemented here?

Also - while I'm at it - any current customers feel like giving their two cents on what it's like to work with FutureQuest?

Thanks All!

Kevin Bedell
www.kbedell.com

[Deb]

Hi Kevin,

Yes we have PHP3 installed with Apache and mod_php

We do not have phplib in the core -- we tried but with safe mode on (required with our server) it didn't work out well, so you would have to install that yourself and we wouldn't be able to offer much in the area of technical support with it.

All the tools are here for you to use.. and they'll work for what you are requesting.. we just can't always guarantee the account owner will know how to use them and we can not always promise we can teach them how http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif

For those willing to try -- we're all for it http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Deb

[hearts]

I can't answer yout questions about PHP..

but here are some links in reference to how people like it here, previous postings from this forum.

http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000044.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000203.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000107.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000155.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000216.html

Good luck on your project!

And as for working with FutureQuest... It is more like home than work. *we don't have to do the chores!* http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif

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[KevinBedell]

I appreciate your *fast* reply to the questions I posted. Don't you guys (er - gals) ever sleep?

Thanks for the endorsement Hearts. I'll check the comments but expect they'll be good. This message board is surely the best advertisment a site could have...

Regarding PHPLIB - the main things I need ( as I indicated) are the ability to manage authentication in a (hopefully) reasonably painless way, and the ability to manage user sessions. If there are tools already here for that - then great.

Can somone point me to where I'd find info on these tools? Or is it right in front of my face...

Thanks,

Kevin

[Terra]

Here's a link to the manual for the PHPLIB I'm referring to: http://phplib.shonline.de/documentation/documentation-1.html - can someone take a quick glance at it and give their 2 cents worth on whether it could be implemented here?

I am familiar with the library, and is very powerful for -state- management and authentication capabilities...

As indicated, this is a library for PHP3 and as such - you can install it into a private location for your scripts to use... I tried to install this into the server core library for PHP3, (like Perl modules) but it did not work as desired...

It will however, work if you install it for your own personal use within your file area... Just takes a little more tweaking, but well worth the effort...

I wish you good journey on learning and harnessing the full capability of this particular library... You will be glad you did... http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

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Terra
--Tag, your it!--
FutureQuest

[KevinBedell]

Thanks Terra -

I'd still like to look at other methods of managing authentication - I'd like to balance ease of implmentation and capabilities.

If anyone has any ideas I'd be glad to hear them. Have many people put authentication into their sites here?

Thanks!

Kev-meister

[hearts]

Was this a technical question?

Don't you guys (er - gals) ever sleep?

We aren't programmed to sleep! http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif

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[This message has been edited by hearts (edited 04-16-99).]

[Justin]

Hm, let's see... sleep() in php makes a script unproductive for a period of time. What's the use in unproductive time? Let's try it on me: sleep(86400); - a day should do...

bash: sleep: command not found

Well, there went that idea http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Ok, on a serious note, what does this PHPLIB do that is so much better than, say, using basic authentication? I'm not sure of it's real-world uses, other than the fact that you can add users, etc, via the web... I am familiar with PHPLIB and I've taken the little tour at their site before... Just curious http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest Support

[SneakyDave]

From what I understand, the PHP Lib classes and features offer some easy to use authentication (session keys and what not). It does have a lot of features, but requires MySQL, the only drawback for me.

[Konrad Koenig]

.. but I thought (naively) that PhP and MySQL were THE dynamic duo .. http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif
- just lurking around this discussion group trying to decide where to begin/learn using the DUO to implement a 45,000 record 12 field database on our virtual host (which does support the DUO) any pointer to URL's of successful installations would be most welcome..

[Justin]

Oh but they are *THE* best combo http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif I'm currently working on a site using a 50-60 field database (not many records yet though) using nothing but PHP/MySQL - complete with searching, sorting, etc etc. So far it's coming along nicely, but I now face the dreaded task of actually adding records to the database http://www.aota.net/ubb/frown.gif Doing all the coding was simple enough, but this is the part I dread LOL http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Not giving the URL yet though, as it is a ways from being complete, and a lot of experimenting is taking place right now...

Oh yeah, also has WWWThreads installed (a very hacked version, anyway) using the MySQL database from Perl, but other than that the entire site is PHP.

Once you start to see the two work together so seamlessly, it's awesome http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest Support