Woohoo! (and then some)

[Del]

No really, I'm quite stoked this time. After days and days, and hundreds of dollars (durn near 400), we've got our very own little intranet-ish thing running here in the back room! Then, to make things even more snazzy, I downloaded this software named Spaghetti (from http://www.avirt.com/ ) which lets us run both machines online at the same time, through the same modem! http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif As I type Julie is clicking away doing her thing (chat, bleah) while I'm here posting on the forums, checking email, and general internetting *g* This is too cool!

There are a few bugs to work out though. Also as I was typing this, the blippin keyboard quit working. I had to copy-paste half this post back in... The other problem to figure out is that I can't get FTP or Telnet to run through the second machine yet (my machine, go figure *s*). Think it's a problem with having to tell stuff I'm going through a proxy server now (that's what spaghetti does I guess is make the box it's on a proxy).

Anyway, I'm done rambling now. Bye

Del

[Shaytar]

Cool!
http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif
Sounds like a lot of fun, and very versatile too!

Shay

[Del]

Okay, we've got it working a bit better now. Had to upgrade to the Gateway server (still from aVirt.com), but now I can run my ftp and secureCRT http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif However, I've come across a new problem, for the life of me, I can't get ICQ to install on this blasted box. Every time it goes to register my uin, I get an illegal op, and it dies...

The box is a Pentium 90, 48mb of RAM, 6.4gig HDD, and Windows 98. It's all running through a firewall/proxy on the other box in order to have online access. If anyone has any ideas, I'd really appreciate hearing them (as long as it doesn't involve spending money. Now I've spent $600+ on the box, and over $1200 to fix the blippin Z, and we're broke again http://www.aota.net/ubb/frown.gif )

Del

(redid some math)

[This message has been edited by Del (edited 02-26-99).]

[Justin]

You got me on that one. I'm wondering if you can set that up with a null modem? I have a serial cable, and it connects at 115,200, so net access on 2 puters shouldn't be a problem on my 28.8. I want to put the 486 in the other end of the house (I know, the serial cable shouldn't be that long, but I don't care http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif), so that would be awesome. Or I might wait till I get this box replaced and just put this one in the living room, who knows.

Either way, I'd like to be able to access the net with the 486 or the laptop (which has no modem) via null modem. I'm sure it can be done, but I checked out that URL and it only talks about using LAN's. I don't know how the serial cable thing would work - keeping in mind the lap has DOS 6.22 and Win3.1 on it...


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Justin Nelson, SFE Software
www.vdj.net (http://www.vdj.net)
The individual formerly known as SFE Inc.

[Del]

Sorry, I don't even know what 'null modem' means... This is the first real work I've done inside the boxes, short of installing the 56k modem on the Sony (which took me three flippin hours to make it work). The reason we bought the 'ethernet in a box' thing is because it sounded like any dummy could do it, which obviously means that I could handle it http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif (it only took me three days to get the network running)

One of these days I'm gonna have another couple of boxes, and I'm going to put a computer in my garage. That'll be the one that gets all the speaker box design software, funky graphics programs, etc... (gonna try and talk Napa into letting me connect to their machines *eg*) Got lots to learn before that ever happens tho http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Del

[Julie]

I would like to second the WooHoo. It is nice to be on-line doing the things I enjoy as he is busy with the more techincal side of internet business.

Yaa even

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Julie

http://www.splitangels.org

[Shaytar]

gotta question about all this...
We would love to do this sort of thing with Beka's and my puters, but my ISP says it won't support LAN's.
Is it a LAN that you have set up? How does the ISP know if it is?
curious

[Del]

Yes, it is indeed a LAN that we have set up here. I think what your ISP means by 'not supporting lans' is that they don't have one that you can get in to. We didn't plug in to an existing LAN, we set up our own, and it doesn't go any farther than the back room of the house.

LAN is short for Local Area Network (as opposed to WAN, a Wide Area Network (the Internet is a WAN)). It is possible for a Local Area Network to be local to, say, San Bernardino CA, and then I could buy into the service and dial up via LAN instead of modem (which is what I think your ISP is talking about).

We just went down to Best Buy and bought one of the 'Network in a Box' kits (actually the box calls it an Ethernet, but I dunno what the difference is)(the kits are all over if you have no Best Buy, seen em at Circuit City, CompUSA, WalMart occasionally). It comes with a hub and two network cards, and a bit of software. You plug a card into each box, then plug the cards into the hub, and install the drivers and it's about done. Some of the benefits (to us anyway) were that we can both use the same printer, zip drive, and have access to the hard drives on both machines now. The modem sharing thing is an added benefit, when you get the proper setup to be able to use it http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif (the aVirt gateway server we have is annoying us though, looking around for a different one).

If that didn't answer your question, slap me and I'll try again.

Del

[Terra]

Pssst, Del - Linux == IP_Masquerading

I've got 5 systems piped through my Linux box at home, works like a charm... http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif

IPChains for Linux > 2.2.x

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Terra
--Where do I want to hide today--
FutureQuest

[Shaytar]

Thanks Del.
Makes sense.
Someday soon..... when cost is not an issue (yeah right http://www.aota.net/ubb/wink.gif )

[Del]

Andrew

Ya, but you're lucky to have multiple boxes! http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif We've only got the two (for now, I will have more!!!), one of which has Win98 and Linux on it (sure would be handy to be able to run em both at the same time *g* of course I'd have to buy another monitor...)
As soon as we have a third box, one of them will be Linux only, and be the server for the other two windows boxes. Most of my problem is that I got waaay to used to using windows software, and I'm too attached to Arachnophilia to stop using windows... hehe

Someday though, it will happen!

Oh yeah. For some annoying reason, the video card I have in the box which works with Windows doesn't work for Linux. Everytime I fire XWindows it starts in 302x240 resolution (or something funky like that). If I put in the vid card that lets my Linux run on 800x600, windows wont run any higher than 640x480 (way too small on a 13" monitor, guess I got spoiled by the trinitron on the Sony). Any suggestions? (short of buying another vid card)(for another couple months anyway)

Del

[Daniel]

Well I read recently and I might be wrong but the new service pack for win98 is coming out very soon and it includes a update that allows you to run more than one pc off the same connection, maybe it will build in the ip masquading and stuff in a simple yet probably crash prone environment.

[Daniel]

Ok I found the link, heres what it says will be included:
IE 5.0 - Microsoft's newest browser
Wake on LAN - The new Wake-On-LAN feature in the OSR gives your computer the ability to
be locally power managed, yet have the option to be activated by a remote computer when it is
turned off. This can be extremely helpful in a local area network
Dial up Networking 1.3
DirectX 6.1
Internet Connection Sharing - This is probably the slickest new feature. A lot of readers have
asked on our message board and in email how they can let other computers on their LAN
share an internet connection when only one computer is connected to the 'net. Before, you had
to use a proxy server or some other complicated setup. ICS will hopefully make this connection
sharing easier.

Sorry for the screwy formatting, copied funmy that way.