recommended isps for fq

[brendag4]

Does anyone know of any ISPs they would recommend to use with FQ?

I am having problems with the ones I am checking into blocking port 25.

So far I have verified that NetZero and Surfree both do this.

This is what NetZero said:


To prevent abuse of our free e-mail account services, NetZero will only
allow our Members to send e-mail from NetZero mail account.[nbsp][nbsp]You can send mail to any e-mail address, but you must use your NetZero e-mail address to send when you are connected to NetZero.

I lost count of how many emails it took me to get that out of them.

Surfree had this to say...


We do block port 25 as this drastically reduces the amount of spam that can be generated from our domain.[nbsp][nbsp]I am sorry if this causes you any inconvenience.

I don't want to have to email or sign up with everyone to find out what my choices are...

so does anyone have any recommendations of ones to look into, or to stay away from?

Thanks :-)

Brenda[nbsp]

[Dan Kaplan]

NetZero's advice is either wrong or out of context.[nbsp][nbsp]They have instructions somewhere on their site for setting up POP mail through their connection (I had to do this for a week when my cable was disconnected).

Dtour

[Justin]

Dan - when ISPs block port 25, they block it for outgoing mail through servers other than their own. They expect you to utilize only their own servers for outgoing mail, so that they can limit/restrict your mail. The instructions you refer to are most likely refering to setting up your NetZero mail account...

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest (http://www.FutureQuest.net/index.php) Support

[Justin]

It is possible that NetZero doesn't have the block in place in all locations. I know that MindSpring is placing a block on port 25, but many of their locations don't have it installed just yet...

My ADSL is through Sprint/Earthlink, and with that I also have a dialup account in case I ever need it. I've been satisfied with Earthlink - I used to never use national dialups, as I felt local ISPs were better, but Earthlink is decent.

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest (http://www.FutureQuest.net/index.php) Support

[brendag4]

I read the fine print :->

I am wondering if the below from the Earthlink user agreement means I can't use them to get mail from my fq site... I wouldn't be using an Earthlink address.... I would be using my site address.

What do you think...


2.13. Engaging in any of the above activities using the service of another provider but channeling such activities through an EarthLink account or re-mailer, or using an EarthLink account as a mail drop for responses.

[This message has been edited by brendag4 (edited 07-15-00@2:02 pm)]

[brendag4]

Earthlink was fast and helpful....

Only bad part so far was my registration page would not print when I tried. It was just an error page.

I got on a chat with a rep.. and here is what he said about the above.

brendag4:

2.13. Engaging in any of the above activities
using the service of another
provider but channeling such activities
through an EarthLink account or
re-mailer, or using an EarthLink account as a
mail drop for responses.
Anthony 2413: this means that you can't use
a different provider to send mail through
earthlink. in other words, be connected to,
let's say aol, and send messages through
earthlink. this is called relaying. relaying is
not allowed.
brendag4: What I would be doing is using a
web host to store my sites email... and
logging on with Earthlink to retreive this mail
stored on the other provider. Is that
acceptable use?
Anthony 2413: that is fine.
brendag4: this host service does not have
USP
brendag4: oops ISP services
Anthony 2413: that is not a problem.

[Lori]

Hi Brenda,

Try looking at http://thelist.com/ and see what you come up with.[nbsp][nbsp]I have found recently that emailing any of the sales@ addys is helpful if their site doesn't provide you with the information you're looking for.

As has already been stated, most of the ones that are blocking port 25 aren't going to readily admit it so you need to be very direct in asking them.

I do remember having http://www.freeinternet.com/ for awhile some time ago and don't remember encountering any problems.[nbsp][nbsp]That doesn't mean however that they aren't blocking it now.[nbsp][nbsp]It is free (if you can deal with the banner adds -- I couldn't), so it may be worth a try.

Lori

[brendag4]

Thanks everyone :-)

I am on Earthlink now.

Problem I had... the signup screen you are supposed to print just printed as a Data Missing page.

I went to support in a chat.. and found where the info was on making your own connection and setting up Outlook.

I couldn't get things to work...

So I installed an old copy of their software I had that was "junk mail".

I think that the only reason it did not work was because I did not know to put ELN in front of my user name... (Well I did not get the printout to work and I had not read the screen closely.)

Email to me from me worked...

Now to try the site :-)

Seems to work :-D

[sheila]

I suspect you will have a difficult, if not impossible, time locating a free ISP that doesn't block port 25.

Are you only considering free ISPs?

[brendag4]

I would consider any ISP... doesn't have to be free.

[Dan Kaplan]

Justin, I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding you (it's been known to happen ;)[nbsp][nbsp]), but I was able to use my FQ POP accounts through the NetZero connection.[nbsp][nbsp]That was independent from a NetZero mail account, but it was going through their servers.[nbsp][nbsp]Is that not what you mean?

Dan

[Mandi]

The wiretapping thread aside, I was really happy with Earthlink - no blocked Port 25, and dialup everywhere I traveled in the Continental 48 . . . until we crossed into BC and headed for Points North (we've just moved home, Alaska!)

This might be a useful directory for you: http://www.findanisp.com/

[julien]

I am also looking for an ISP to go with FQ.
FQ provides only Web hosting & that is great.
So ideally I would like to find someone who provides only access and nothing else (why pay for hosting we're not going to use?)
Finding actual reviews of ISPs is really hard! Maybe gamers would be the ones to ask since they need fast persistent connections. There really has to be an alternative to Earthlink out there. Yes they are solid but they are slow.