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Deb

03-20-1999, 07:52 PM

Have any of you that have upgraded to IE 5 noticed that it now generates its own not found page?

I no longer see the 404 pages that the site owners create... I only see the one IE came up with http://www.aota.net/ubb/frown.gif

I'm off to hunt out the fix for this... unless one of you already found it? <hint nudge hint>

Deb
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hearts

03-20-1999, 08:55 PM

now, Sam I am, how is this possible? *sigh sigh sigh*

How can a browser generate its own page? The browser seems to have too much control over what is being seen on the internet? Oh no! A browser with a mind of its own.

Pondering this... a .htaccess file tells the server what to do, no?

hey deb, i have an idea.. go here:
www.heartsweb.com/heartisticwishes/anything (http://www.heartsweb.com/heartisticwishes/anything)

if ya see a 404 error.. let me know. that has its own error page for that dir. If it works.. couldn't we put a .htaccess file in the www dir? (thinking outloud) -- i don't have IE5

[This message has been edited by hearts (edited 03-20-99).]

Justin

03-20-1999, 09:05 PM

Hearts, there already is an .htaccess file in your www root that sends a 404 page http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif If not the default is apache sending it's own idea of a 404 page. Either way, it's an HTML page.

What IE is doing is looking for the word 404 in the title - which sucks, because what if you go to a UBB post entitled "404 - File Not Found"? hehe - would be interesting http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

That is the only way a browser can know whether it is a 404 page or not. Let's test that theory. Go here in IE5:

http://www.vdj.net/404.shtml

If that doesn't show up, when there really is no 404 error, then it's IE looking in the title. I think that's one of the stupidest things they could have done to a browser http://www.aota.net/ubb/frown.gif Glad as heck I didn't download it http://www.aota.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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genc

03-24-1999, 07:09 AM

I tried both websites with ie5 and I have no problem... I guess the problem is something else.

pqwabbit

03-24-1999, 10:17 AM

Yet another reason to hate MS - like Ididnt create our own 404 for that silly crud bah!
:Þ man there got to be a way to disable that ****ed thing - ya know what else bites is if you go to ms's update site it require you to use IE 5 - well like bite me already - I just have this thing about people telong me what borwser I HAEV to use!

try our 404 http://www.boston.quik.com/massey/ainthere.html

Lea

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Benson

03-24-1999, 01:34 PM

I'm getting the appropriate 404 page that Apache serves up for Justins, Hearts and Wabbit's pages using IE5.

[This message has been edited by Benson (edited 03-24-99).]

Deb

03-24-1999, 02:34 PM

hhrrrmmm I downloaded mine from the Altavista site with all of their additions to it.. wonder if I didn't get an extra "gift" due to that... I'll do some more digging...

Thanks for the feedback... I'd rather think it's just me and those who did what I did for the upgrade (whatever it was) rather then the whole IE5 community...

Deb

Charles Capps

03-24-1999, 03:49 PM

Tools -> Internet Options
Advanced Tab
Browsing Category
UNCheck "Show Friendly HTTP Error Messages"

That will get rid of most of the 'friendly' pages, including the 404.

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Deb

03-24-1999, 04:14 PM

DOH!

Thanks Charles! I owe you one.. or ten or twenty or something nice http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif

Deb

Charles Capps

03-24-1999, 05:25 PM

Hm, how 'bout 404? ;-D

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Rich

03-31-1999, 10:16 AM

Yes, THANKS CHARLES. I looked all over for this option and missed it about three times!

At first I thought this feature was cool. Afterall, a page not found message is a page not found message and if they integrated it, then great.

However, their implementation is so poor it is WORSE than the original 404 when no alternate page has been given by the web site. For example, when the page displays, it replaces the address in the address bar with the address of the 404 message page and then suggests you try to "refresh" the page. DUH! Also, the MS generated will generate many, many more "false" displays than when the page is generated from the web site.

Rich

hearts

04-07-1999, 10:18 AM

i downloaded this while i was sleeping, and I LOVE IT! And I didn't have this prob with the 404 error pages. http://www.aota.net/ubb/smile.gif IF ya'll hadn't talked about it so much, I never would have downloaded it.. *grin*

blobpet

06-09-1999, 12:12 AM

I've seen the nasty 404 cheap shot that Microsoft has done.[nbsp][nbsp]To prevent IE5 from showing their own custom "friendly" error page, you just have to create your 404 error pages so that they're greater than X kilobytes.[nbsp][nbsp]Now I'm saying "X" because I forgot what the size has to be...
If you don't really have much to say in your error page but still would rather have it displayed than MS's "friendly" crap, just add some invisible comments to make your file bigger.
Example: