couple questions -- Take your time :-)

[Del]

Stoked out of my mind so far, just a couple things to ask.

I've uploaded a .htaccess file to /www containing the following 2 lines (more to come someday);

ErrorDocument 404 /404.html
ErrorDocument 500 /500.html

When I get a 404 error, I get my 404.html page. If I see a 404 in the cgi-bin, I get FQuest's 404 error page. Also, on 500 errors I get a standard, white, "couldn't complete your request" apache-looking page. Did I do the .htaccess wrong? Or is this standard operation? Not a big deal, just curious (the higher paying sponsor banners are stashed on my often spotted 404 and 500 pages hehehe).

Now, after all that, I've forgotten my other question. Oh well, someday it'll come back, maybe :-)

Thanks again, and I don't expect an answer for at least 24 hours darnit! Y'all are answering me too fast, I don't know what to do with info that comes so quick :-)

Del

[Terra]

Hello Del,

I see what you are trying to do, and will look into what adjustments need to be made, for making that a reality...

To offer the dual level "cgi-bin" Server/Domain functionality... The error is coming from the last stop, which is the Server "cgi-bin"...

It is a design issue that I am faced with, and will probably have to add custom FQuest handlers to trap the transition from Domain --> Server (cgi-bin) and reflect the error back to the Domain handling, instead of Server handling...

FQuest cgi-bin duality is a complex design in itself, and has thus worked flawlessly... Most servers make customers use Domain "cgi-bin" and Server "cgi-sys" for their duality... FQuest was NOT satisfied with that, as it added another layer of confusion for the customer... Two weeks later of pounding my head against the wall, we were able to make the Domain-->Server transition totally transparent to the customer... A work of art indeed... http://www.aota.net/ubb//smile.gif

Nevertheless, I have been waiting for someone to throw a monkey wrench into the design we created... "ErrorDocument" in the cgi-bin, is that wrench... I now feel that I can resolve the issue by coding a reflector at the Server level, to handle this situation... It is still a difficult proposition as I have over 5 modules meddling in handling this one "error" request...

I will let you know the final results on this...

Terra

[pqwabbit]

aahhhhhhhhh - well there you go you have to make it all complex! :Þ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
what does that mean anyyway ???
Lea
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hmm well this I know I have on my server and it works http://www.aota.net/ubb//smile.gif
sionceyou onlyy upload the htaccess to your /www I wonder if thats the problem?

like when I log onto my ftp (I am not ewith FQUESt so this might be a bit didernt I get taken to
a file that contains /www and a bunch of other setting files and stuff

say your login name was clueless - so you ftp to your site -
adn you'd get like something simlar to
/usr/domain/clueless/

then you have your /www and all that other crud

you want to upload your .htaccess right to here rather than into /www

thats where mine is anyhow -
adn I knwo mine works - ao maybe thats the deal? thought i;d give ya something to try while you;re waiting http://www.aota.net/ubb//smile.gif

Lea
www.massey.i-p-d.com (http://www.massey.i-p-d.com)
http://www.rabbitrescue.org





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[pqwabbit]

hey terra didnt you just have a reply here?? um I am going nutty I think
I just replied to a rpely that I cant find aaaaallrighty then
http://www.aota.net/ubb//smile.gif


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[Del]

I said 24 hours, not 12 :-)

There's no reason for you to go re-coding your system just to get my 500 error page to work! Especially since your system already works fine :-) I know you've got a lot more 'real' things to do that fiddle with redesigning your cgi workings (like, try to get some sleep! Y'all are always online it seems)

Del

[Terra]

Hello Del,

I have made the necessary hooks for your domain...

Also, the "ErrorDocument" .htaccess file *must* be within your 'cgi-bin' directory as well, as the modifications that I have made to the Apache source code is dependent and will test for it's existance... I have done this to stop any -race- conditions that would exist otherwise and open up an exploit hole...

You can use the faulty cgi script "BOOM.pl" to test the 500 messages...

Terra

--fast effective solutions, to difficult/complex problems--

[Terra]

Hi Del,

ummmmm -- I solved that sleep problem long ago, didn't you know I finally figured out how to -clone- myself... http://www.aota.net/ubb//smile.gif

It has sure made Deb smile...

Now I can be online ALL the time...

FQuest is built upon 'excellence in customer support'... A quality notably absent in many of the 'other guys'... We may not be the cheapest, biggest or fastest, BUT we do intend to be the best! Our determination and goals will have it no other way...

In the End -- you get what you pay for...

Terra

[Del]

Cool, thanks! I'll fiddle some more when I get home tonite (at the school lab currently. Have to do most online-ing here, GTE cut everyone to 100 hours/month, we usually use 250+/month hehehe. New ISP is being found)

Cloned eh? Sounds like a good idea! Have you considered marketing it yet? Could make tons! Everyone could send their clone to work, and chat all day! :-0 (thought the 'net was slow now, yeesh)

Del

PS Do I need to fill out the domain mod form with Internic? I was about to do it, but wasn't sure if y'all were going to handle that or not. I can still do it if you give me the word.

[Terra]

Hi Del,

On modifications to existing Internic domain templates, the end-customer has to authorize the changes... If it weren't that way, I would be switching EVERYONE over to FutureQuest.net *big grin*

On the email you received, find line "0a" and "A" or "ACK" it...

0a. (A)ck (N)ak.....: ACK

Then send it back to Internic to authorize the changes...

Hope this helps...

Terra

[Del]

LOL If it were that easy, there's quite a few people whose domains I'd be messing with! *eg*

What I meant was, do I have to start the process? I haven't yet received any word from InterNic asking if I truly want to move (which I do). I'm getting quite handy at typing ACK in the Internic thing *s*, I've moved my domains more times than I like to admit (this will be the last move for downinit.com for some time tho), just awaiting the opportunity to do so.

Del

[Terra]

And such is the nature of the net...

I have resubmitted the modification template to Internic...

Possibly, after they get it - I should reboot the Internet... *g*

Terra

[Del]

Reboot the 'net? Not possible, I don't think it's ever been done in the first place! Give it it's first kick in the behind, then it can be re-booted.