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DogAndPony
10-26-2006, 01:31 AM
Hi, guys...

Anyone else seeing delays in delivery to Yahoo addresses?

I've got one message that's been delayed for a full day, and a couple others that have been delayed by 2 hours or more.

It's starting to interfere with work with a client...

TIA!

Melissa
10-26-2006, 02:15 AM
Hi Bob,

I saw email delays to Yahoo last Friday on my personal account and I'm seeing them again tonight. In looking at the logs for my test message sent to Yahoo tonight, I'm seeing:
Remote_host_said:_451_Message_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50/

:(

DogAndPony
10-26-2006, 02:18 AM
Hi Bob,

I saw email delays to Yahoo last Friday on my personal account and I'm seeing them again tonight. In looking at the logs for my test message sent to Yahoo tonight, I'm seeing:
Remote_host_said:_451_Message_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50/El stinko!:(
My sentiments exactly! :wink:

Fortunately, the client also has a Hotmail account, and although delivery to all these free accounts is slow, hopefully it won't take a day or more.

But, it looks like other methods of transmission will be needed... Deadlines wait for no Yahoo!

Thanks for the info, Melissa!

Melissa
10-26-2006, 04:01 AM
Just FYI...Yahoo eventually accepted my test message and did deliver it to me (close to 2 hours after I sent it). YMMV.

kitchin
10-26-2006, 08:51 AM
Me too. One is still in the queue, one failed after two days. It failed at:
25 Oct 2006 03:42:02 -0000

Arthur
10-26-2006, 09:53 AM
kitchin, I traced that message (based on the time, I assume it was the message you're talking about) and found that our server tried at least 31 times to deliver the message and each time it got that 451 error.

Searching Google for this particular problem gives many hits :sad: , a couple of examples;
http://www.ahfx.net/weblog/107
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061024160658AAAh0QY

-Arthur

DogAndPony
10-26-2006, 01:55 PM
Yep. One of mine has now failed, too...

From MAILER-DAEMON@sonic.futurequest.net Thu Oct 26 10:46:35 2006
Return-Path: <>
Delivered-To: [munged]
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3-gr0 (2006-06-01) by QuestScan
on Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:11:20 -0400
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=[munged] tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME
autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3-gr0
Received: (fqmail 25594 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000
Received: from mx01.futurequest.net (mx01.futurequest.net [69.5.6.171])
by pt01.futurequest.net ([69.5.6.170])
with FQDP via TCP; 26 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000
Received: (qmail 836 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000
Received: from sonic.futurequest.net (sonic.futurequest.net [69.5.8.3])
by mx01.futurequest.net ([69.5.6.171])
with SMTP via TCP; 26 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000
Received: (qmail 32726 invoked for bounce); 26 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000
Date: 26 Oct 2006 17:11:20 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@sonic.futurequest.net
To: [munged]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sonic.futurequest.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[munged]>:
Connected to 4.79.181.168 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.


I think it's time to recommend to my client that she get a real web and email hosting service. :hrmm:

kitchin
10-26-2006, 04:11 PM
Yahoo Mail pushed me to the Beta service day. It has an annoying animated character reminescent of Clippy. When you try to bypass him, he tries to cajole you into continuing on with his tutorial.

Meanwhile, my friend with the 31 retries tells me to send to her Gmail account ;) Thanks for checking Arthur.

kitchin
10-26-2006, 04:56 PM
Yahoo Mail Beta does have an interesting anti-phishing feature. You create your own mini-logo for the login screen. It is called a "sign-in seal." Whenever you go to login it is on the sign-in page, and presumably the phishers would not be able to replicate it, since only you and Yahoo know how you designed it.

DogAndPony
10-26-2006, 05:29 PM
Yahoo Mail Beta does have an interesting anti-phishing feature. You create your own mini-logo for the login screen. It is called a "sign-in seal." Whenever you go to login it is on the sign-in page, and presumably the phishers would not be able to replicate it, since only you and Yahoo know how you designed it.Bank of America has been using this kind of "SiteKey" system for a while. Makes it really tough for a phisher to spoof a BofA page.