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Pat
06-08-2000, 08:41 PM
Howdy, all,

[nbsp]I created site in DIR called www on my
HD, uploaded html pages/photos; and
everything's on FQ, per CNC File Mgr.
view. For most of a year, while looking
at site now &amp; then, all looked fine. Loaded fast, too... <g>

[nbsp]While viewing site on another PC with
same browser (_without_ a copy of site[nbsp][nbsp]in DIR called WWW on the PC) ---- I fear I saw what everyone has seen - not much.
[nbsp]Broken links, pages seem wider than
they were created, etc. You name it, and
it was there (or not).
[nbsp]Soooooooooo, to verify that sinking feeling in the gut, on home PC - one with copy of site on it - I moved it to a DIR called something else; checked the site and some pages showed fine, some not.
[nbsp]Now, the question(s) --was my gaffe in keeping www dir on my PC, and so, I was in reality seeing the HD's copy of site
and not the real thing, and/or...?

The red-faced guy here _would_ love your advice on this blunder. (Look for his new book &quot;Sites for Dummies&quot;, when done with making all possible errors.

Really appreciate any help on this.
P.S. it _was_ first site I made; guess I best keep my day job, eh? <g>

Thanks,
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jimbo
06-08-2000, 09:05 PM
The first thing that jumps out at me is the possibility that the other PC you used had the screen at a different resolution than yours.[nbsp][nbsp]That wouldn't explain the broken links, but it would certainly explain the mis-sized columns and tables.

That was one of the first problems I encountered when first learning how to code a site.[nbsp][nbsp]I've since coded all my sites in a table that is no more than 600 pixels wide, and this has done the trick for me.[nbsp][nbsp]So then the person with the smallest (biggest) resolution would still see everything as an entire page.[nbsp][nbsp]People with a larger resolution will see a page that is more towards the left, with some open space on the right, but at least the site is totally viewable by everyone.

I'm not sure if what I described is the *proper* way to do it, but that is the solution that I worked out for myself, and has worked fine.[nbsp][nbsp]

The most challenging thing about designing webpages (in my opinion) is making something that looks good and functions properly no matter what the browser or system configuration, and even WebTV ;) .[nbsp][nbsp]If a page looks as good and functions the same whether I'm using IE and a 1024x768 resolution, or Netscape and an 800x600 resolutionand every other possible configuration, I know I have succeeded in making a good page.

Good luck to you.[nbsp][nbsp]:)

Justin
06-08-2000, 09:50 PM
The problem is that you are using an HTML editing program that is not that smart... Front Page is notorious for this.

When you add an image to a web page in FP, for example, it will sometimes put its path relative to your hard drive. This is regardless of the name of the directory - it's simply the fact that your HTML program apparently doesn't realize that the page is intended to be placed on a web server.

I would recommend finding a more intelligent HTML editing program or learning HTML at least enough to fix your URLs/paths... others can post suggestions of software to use (I use Notepad).

Hope this helps.

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest (http://www.FutureQuest.net/index.php) Support

wolfstalks
06-09-2000, 07:42 AM
One of the things I like about Composer is that it places the path to imbedded objects relative to the page, not your hard drive.[nbsp][nbsp]It's also FREE, one of the best words in the English language, IMHO :P

Netscapes Composer allows WYSIWYG page composing as well as raw HTML editing, so you might want to try it out.[nbsp][nbsp]

Good Luck
Bob

Justin
06-09-2000, 11:50 AM
Front Page also places the image reference relative to the page, but what happens is when you add an image from a very different location, it causes problems. Let's say for example that your page is in C:\Web Stuff\My Page\index.html. You add an image that happens to be in C:\New Folder\wood.jpg (a friend had problems with this exact scenerio - a year later I still cannot convince him that I don't have a &quot;wood.jpg&quot; on my PC and that only he is seeing the image). The only way to get the page to show that image is to give a full path, and when working locally...

Also note that Front Page does this if you have not yet saved the page but are adding images to it. It has no path to reference for the page, since it's never been on disk yet...

This is all fine, but once you save and upload ('publish') your page, you would think it would be smart enough to fix the paths - but FP does not...

For the record, I have never used Front Page personally, nor do I advocate such behavior in others. Well, maybe once, but I didn't enhale... :P

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest (http://www.FutureQuest.net/index.php) Support
[This message has been edited by Justin (edited 06-09-00@11:50 am)]