Multipart MIME via ezMLM-idx?

[DogAndPony]

Hi, kids...

I've searched the forums a bit and it looks like this may be possible, but I'm not sure.

I need to send multipart/alternative email to a list via FQ's ezMLM-idx.

From what I read in the upgrade announcement thread, it looks like it might be possible.

So, are DIR/mimereject and DIR/mimeremove turned off in FQ's install?

If so, I'm thinking that all I need to do is find a mail client that allows me to compose multipart/alterative emails, and use it to send the message to the list address.

Non? Si? Nyet? Ja?

If I can't do this via FQ's servers, I might resort to using ezMLM-idx and Webscriber to handle subscriptions, then export the list to a local app on my Mac and send from here (I don't want to force her to pay for a mailing service, especially since it might tempt her to manage an unconfirmed list herself...). This would be a monthly-or-less newsletter...

BTW-- I'm also taking recommendations for a multipart/alternative composer/mailer for the Mac. I'm running 10.2.8 (still).

TIA!

[sheila]

Hey, Bob...just use your email client to make an HTML type of message. Most of them include the option to provide plain text alternative.

I just tested out the Mail.app program that is included in the Mac OS X (I have 10.4.3 installed, but I still believe the version of Apple Mail that you have would also include "Rich Text" format, as the call it in the preferences panel).

If, in the preferences pane, you go to the "Compose" tab, you set Rich Text as your preference, it will automatically include a plain text alternative (in fact, I see no way to turn that off).

This does send MIME 1.0
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2)

and it does send HTML:
--Apple-Mail-1--707647323
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=US-ASCII;
format=flowed


as well as a plain text part:
--Apple-Mail-1--707647323
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/html;
charset=US-ASCII

You might also check out Thunderbird, as well. I haven't used it recently, but it has these capabilities also, and the price is right. ;)

[Randall]

You might also check out Thunderbird, as well. I haven't used it recently, but it has these capabilities also, and the price is right. I can vouch for that.

I guess I'm behind the times -- I didn't know anything about multipart/alternative (http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/1521/18.htm) until now. Figured it was done with multipart/mixed.

Randall

[sheila]

The "alternative" subtype indicates that all of the parts contain the same content, only the formatting is different.

The "mixed" subtype indicates that the content of the parts are not all the same. This would be used, for example, if there were attachments to the message, such as your recent photo files you send to mom. ;)

[Randall]

The "alternative" subtype indicates that all of the parts contain the same content, only the formatting is different.

The "mixed" subtype indicates that the content of the parts are not all the same. Mixed, alternative, it's all the same to me. :rasberry: This would be used, for example, if there were attachments to the message, such as your recent photo files you send to mom. ;) That reminds me, I don't think I ever did send her those tree pictures...

Randall

[DogAndPony]

Hey, Bob...Hey, Sheila!just use your email client to make an HTML type of message. Most of them include the option to provide plain text alternative.

I just tested out the Mail.app program ... it will automatically include a plain text alternative (in fact, I see no way to turn that off).Thanks for the info... Kewl! Glad I can do this via FQ.

But I need finer control over the code. I'll probably compose the thing in Dreamweaver and then copy-and-paste to whatever client will send it. But the client has to accept the paste as code and not plain text, so the client has to have HTML composing capabilities......You might also check out Thunderbird, as well. I haven't used it recently, but it has these capabilities also, and the price is right. ;)Hmmm... I keep threatening to move to it, but it seems I kept running up against missing features or something. It's been a while since I looked at it, though, so I'll check it out if only for this.

Thanks!

[Randall]

I'll probably compose the thing in Dreamweaver and then copy-and-paste to whatever client will send it. But the client has to accept the paste as code and not plain text, so the client has to have HTML composing capabilities... Thunderbird doesn't have an obvious "source view" editor like Outlook Express does. But you can use the Insert HTML menu item to paste in any code you like. I'm pretty sure it doesn't try to "clean up" the code for you.

Unfortunately it won't let you see all of the code you previously inserted, even when you do a Select All on the message body. Stuff like the <html></html> tags and style sheets won't show up.

It's too bad they didn't make the View Message Source window editable. That would make it really simple. :hrmm:

Randall

[DogAndPony]

Thunderbird doesn't have an obvious "source view" editor like Outlook Express does. But you can use the Insert HTML menu item to paste in any code you like. I'm pretty sure it doesn't try to "clean up" the code for you.Being the retentive type, I'm sure I'll do a few tests before the first delivery. :wink: ...It's too bad they didn't make the View Message Source window editable. That would make it really simple. :hrmm: lMuch too easy. :dopey:

Sounds like it might work... Unfortunately the current build of Thunderbird requires 10.3. :hrmm:

I'm reeeeally trying to avoid upgrading my OS until I can afford a new machine. I mean, I'm gonna be soooo frustrated that I can't run Garage Band 'cuz my old Bondi Blue G3's too slow!! :wah:

[Randall]

Unfortunately the current build of Thunderbird requires 10.3. Yeah, I wondered about that.

Mail.app 2.0 has an "Paste as HTML" command. Too much to hope that it exists in Jaguar?

Randall

[DogAndPony]

Yeah, I wondered about that.

Mail.app 2.0 has an "Paste as HTML" command. Too much to hope that it exists in Jaguar?Apparently... Closest thing in Mail.app 1.2.5 is "Paste as Quotation". :hrmm:

[hobbes]

Had someone ask yesterday whether Eudora/Mac supports creation of HTML emails. Anyone know?

[DogAndPony]

Had someone ask yesterday whether Eudora/Mac supports creation of HTML emails. Anyone know?From the feature list on their site, it doesn't look like it does... Styled text, but not full HTML.

http://www.eudora.com/email/features/index.html