trouble publishing to site

[lostrus]

Hi all,
I am having trouble uploading my index.html and other pages to my site. I have tried to correct this problem for days now, and am very frustrated. Please help!!!

I kept getting the message that the publishing failed and it says error 550 file not found. What does that mean?

I assume that I am not inputting the server info correctly into my publishing site. I am using Nvu.

This is what I am inputting. What can I do to correct it?

Publishing:

Site name:
Blue Vistas Center for Enlightenment

Page Title:
Blue Vistas Center for Enlightenment

File Name:
Index.html

Site Subdirectory:
none

Settings:
Site Name:
Blue Vistas Center for Enlightenment

http add:
http://www.bluevistas.org/lostrus/

ftp add:
ftp://ftp.bluevistas.org/../www

Can anyone please tell me what I am doing wrong?

Thanks

Lostrus :dunno:

[Bob]

Hello,

I found this well written tutorial for the use of NVU on TheSiteWizard...

http://www.thesitewizard.com/gettingstarted/nvu1.shtml

It would appear that the correct Host Name entry would be:
ftp://ftp.bluevistas.org/../www

According to that tutorial...
However I was unable to get that to work myself.

What did work was: (Testing on one of my personal accounts)

Settings:
Publishing server:
ftp://ftp.actionstep.com/

Correct username and password and cASe

Then under the Publish tab I set:
Site subdirectory for this page to /www

and that worked...

-Bob

[kitchin]

Hey, that worked for me too. Also,

http add:
http://www.bluevistas.org/lostrus/

should be

http add:
http://www.bluevistas.org/

That thing about "/username" is ridiculous. Or at least, not right in this circumstance.

[lostrus]

Hi all,

Thanks for your quick responses! I changed the ftp publishing info to ftp://ftp.actionsteps.com/ and took out the user name on the http address, but it doesn't work, and instead says "530 authentification failed".

However, I changed the site name to the ftp address for the site, ie

Site name:
ftp.bluevistas.org (ftp) and this worked to publish it.

Yea, except for one thing, now when I try to click on it to edit it, it won't let me get it back, and it says "login failed". Now what do I do to get it back so I can edit it?

Also, my links don't work. I published my link pages the same way, but when I click on the links, they say "page not found". What do I publish my link pages as in order to get them to work?

Please help...I feel I am SO out of my league on this, just because I cannot figure out how to PUBLISH correctly.

Thanks,

Lostrus :blah:

[Bob]

Hello again,

Just for clarification, I mentioned the settings I used on one of my sites, I should have been clearer that you needed to change those settings to match those of your domain.

When you set the Publishing information in NVU there are two tabs...

One tab is: "Settings"
You want to make sure that has the following:
HTTP address: http://bluevistas.org/

Publishing address: ftp://ftp.bluevistas.org/
your username:
password:
(If using IP address use ftp://69.x.xx.xxx
replacing the xx's with your actual IP address contained in your Activation Letter)

Then in the Tab named "Publish"
Make sure that a page name and page title are entered and then under "Site subdirectory for this page" make sure you have entered "www/" (without the quotation marks)

If you do not enter the "www/" aspect the files will end up one directory above the "www" directory.

If this happens you can access your CNC File Manager and place a tick under each file you uploaded and then in the buttons below the files listing press "Move files" if you need to move them however from what we can see it appears you have uploaded files to your "www" successfully.

The problem with the links on your index file would be that they are linking to a directory that doesn't exist on your site:
<a href="../Rhonda%27s%20Documents/index.html">

You need to modify the code in your files to point to actual existing files. For instance if you have another html file you wish to link to named aboutus.htm then the code would be:
<a href="aboutus.htm">

The link does have to refer to an actual file and is cASe sensitive.

Also note that you don't want to use spaces in directory or file names as not all browsers will handle these in the same manner...

-Bob

[lostrus]

Dear Bob,

OK, I changed the link to say what you suggested. Thank you. I hope it works.

I have another problem though. It seems when I upload corrected pages to my site it is taking 1-2 days for the corrected page to make it there. Why is it taking so long, and is there anything I can do to have it upload within minutes? It is taking so long that when I make a mistake, I cannot easily test it and revise it immediately.

Thanks for your help,

Rhonda

[Bob]

Hi again Rhonda,

Dear Bob,

I have another problem though. It seems when I upload corrected pages to my site it is taking 1-2 days for the corrected page to make it there. Why is it taking so long, and is there anything I can do to have it upload within minutes? It is taking so long that when I make a mistake, I cannot easily test it and revise it immediately.

Thanks for your help,

Rhonda

When you publish a change it is immediate, however your browser is probably cacheing the old content.

Usually simply pushing and holding the "Shift" key down and hitting reload/refresh in your Browser should allow you to see the new content...

The links I see on your web site now read:
<a href="../Rhonda%27s%20Documents/index.html">

Your links must reflect an actual directory on the web server. I would recommend accessing your account's CNC File Manager and under the /www directory see what the file names and Directories are listed (ignore stats).

If you want to link to "aboutus.html then the code would be:
<a href="aboutus.html">
OR
<a href="http://bluevistas.org/aboutus.html">

Take some time to explore your CNC File Manager and you will get a better feel for what you have actually uploaded and naming. Remember all links must reflect the actual location of a file, if it is in your /www directory then no folder name is required before the file name...

-Bob

[lostrus]

Hi Bob,

I am taking your advice and looking at the files in my CNC, but
I am still having these difficulties with setting up the website:

First -- I have pulled back my index.html file several times and made changes and then uploaded it back, and nothing takes. No changes ever show up on the website, even thought it says "publishing complete". What is causing this problem?

Second -- I am not really sure what files are supposed to be under what files in my File Manager. So far, all my web files are under www/. Is this correct? If not, then what do I do to fix it? IE, what file goes under what? And when do I put a file under a directory, and when do I put a file under www/? Also, spiritupwardbound is a directory, and it is an IRM. How do I upload files under this directory, and which ones do I upload, and with what settings?

Thanks,

Rhonda

PS -- I feel I am learning a little more every day, so please be patient with me! I'm just so new at this, and I noticed the help topics under Nvu were missing the help section on Publishing -- it says they are redoing this section. So I am going blind in this. Thanks. :safegrin:

[sheila]

Hello Lostrus,

I took a look at your web site URL at http://bluevistas.org/
and when I go there, I am seeing a directory listing (a listing of the files within your /www directory), so there is no index.html file within your /www directory.

I do see a file named index.mzt

Should that one be renamed to index.html?

As for your changes not appearing to take...there could be two reasons for that. One is that you are simply not uploading the changes, or are uploading them to the wrong place (they should be placed within your /www folder).

The other possible reason for not seeing changes would be that the site is being cached, either in your browser or by your ISP's caching proxy (if they have one). If you think that you are uploading the changes to the correct place, but are still not seeing them, then perhaps you could make a change, and tell us what it is, and we could see if we see the change or not?

As far as where you files go...
All of your web files should be within your /www folder.
From the directory listing shown at http://bluevistas.org/ there is no spiritupwardbound directory within your /www folder, so that means you have probably created it above the /www directory, which is not the correct place. You need to create the spiritupwardbound directory inside of the /www directory and then put your files for the IRM inside of the spiritupwardbound directory.

You would upload all of your HTML files and the images that you use within the HTML files. Most of the time you can just use "automatic" upload setting, and your FTP client will "do the right thing". However, in general, HTML should be uploaded as TEXT (or ASCII), and images must be uploaded in binary mode. If you choose "automatic", most upload programs will automatically use the settings described.

Hey, if you are learning something new each day, that is great!

-- one foot in front of the other

[Snarpy]

Never mind. Sheila covered it.

Snarpy

[lostrus]

Hi all,

Thanks for all your help so far. It seems I have solved some of the problems I was having, thanks to your help! I am grateful to you.

However, I still cannot get my links on my index.html page to work. I am trying to link to other pages in my site. So far one of these links actually works, the page about the site. But none of the other links work. Two are normal pages, and one is an IRM.

Help! I've tried every imaginable combination to get these links to work. I know the problem must be do to two things:

Either my code on the link itself is wrong, or the publishing site settings page on the pages I am trying to link to is wrong.

Can anyone help? I have tried all you have suggested to date, and when they didn't work I have tried others, and only that one link works. So I have tried to see why it works and what is different about it compared to the others, and I cannot see a difference. Maybe you can see the difference.

Thanks,

Lostrus :confuz:

[Bob]

Hi again Lostrus,

The actual code in your source file is:

<a href="%3Ca%20href=%22http://bluevistas.org/spiritnews.html%22%3E">Spirit News</a>

Changing the above to:
<a href="http://bluevistas.org/spiritnews.html">Spirit News</a>

Should fix that, why or how the extra was added that I wouldn't be able to tell you...

You should be able to just open your index file up using your CNC File Manager, using the built in Editor, and remove the extraneous code...

-Bob

[lostrus]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your reply. I went into my index file from CNC and changed the code back to what you said. However, it keeps readding all that percentage stuff, so does that mean that my files aren't being published correctly as an html file, or are they too far into my computer? With the last possibility in mind, I moved my files to one folder on the desktop, but it still didn't work. Now I am wondering if they are making it to the server OK?

I try to change the code and it reverts back. What does that mean?

Help! It seems like no matter what I do I just cannot get this problem resolved...

Lostrus

[Bob]

Hi again Lostrus,

What I see currently on your site seems to mostly be correct...

The two links towards the bottom of your page
"Spirit News About Blue Vistas"

Are both working as they should and in your Left Navigation links I see two apparent errors...

"Discourses" links to "http://bluevistas.org/amtopics.html/"

You need to remove the trailing slash "/" and the link should just be to:
http://bluevistas.org/amtopics.html

A trailing slash indicates a directory and you would not place one after a direct file address...

Also "Spirit Upward
Bound Institute"

Links to "http://bluevistas.org/spiritupwardbound.xhtml" which is not found on the server

-Bob

[lostrus]

Hi Bob,

I did as you asked, and there seems to be no change on my site. I am still unable to pull up my links. I know there must be something simple I am missing in all this. One link works and the others don't Why?

By the way, spiritupwardbound is an IRM so those files were published under a different directory, and I don't know how to list them to get them to show up attached to this main directory. But that is another question. For now, I would just like to get my links to spirit news and discourses to show up.

What do I try next?

Lostrus

[Bob]

Hi again Lostrus,

I see a change:

"Discourses" now links to http://bluevistas.org/amtopics.html and works perfectly fine for me.

When you make a change to a web file make sure you force a browser reload/refesh by using SHIFT+reload, CTRL+F5 (or in some cases Shift+CTRL+Reload).

Generally hold down the "Shift" key and press the Reload/Refresh button on your browser, at the same time, should refresh the page to the current version.

-Bob

[lostrus]

Hi Bob,

Yeah! I see both links to spirit news and discourses. Now how do I get the link to the IRM, spiritupwardbound.com going?

Where do I publish the files, do I publish them the same as the others? Also, in order to get these links to show up I had to publish them to a site name of my ftp file. Does that make sense, and do I publish the IRM there also?

What do I put under file name, and file subdirectory (ie www?).

Thanks,

Lostrus :smile:

[Bob]

Hi again and G'Deal :)

Your IRM is mapped to a subdirectory of your /www directory. You would place all files for that domain in the directory you specified in the IRM Order. If you can locate your IRM Activation Letter it will be noted there.

The main page for your IRM would also be named index.html however it would be located in the subdirectory for your IRM.

Then you would just use the address for the IRM Domain:
http://spiritupwardbound.com/

-Bob