FQ Manual Question - UBB

[Alex Ethridge]

In the FQ Manual, under Installing UBB on FQ, I find that it is a little confusing to me.[nbsp][nbsp]Please understand that I take every word and phrase very literal because I know nothing of Linux.[nbsp][nbsp]I have cut and pasted here the portion of the manual that I have found confusing.[nbsp][nbsp]The numbers are added by me for clarity.

1[nbsp][nbsp] Now fire up your favorite FTP program
2[nbsp][nbsp] Log in to your account on FutureQuest,
3[nbsp][nbsp] find your way to your cgi-bin directory.

Here, a step should be added to make it clearer.[nbsp][nbsp]The step should be Change location into the cgi-bin folder, to make it idiot-proof, until a better idiot comes along

4[nbsp][nbsp] Create a folder named ubb,
5[nbsp][nbsp] chmod it 755 (or drwxr-xr-x),
6[nbsp][nbsp] change location into it.
7[nbsp][nbsp] Now navigate to your local directory that contains the files recently extracted from the UBB distribution, and go into the cgi-bin directory there.
8[nbsp][nbsp] Upload all the files from the local cgi-bin directory to the cgi-bin directory on the server

In step 6 above, you left me in the remote folder, xdomain/cgi-bin/ubb.[nbsp][nbsp]And, in step 8 you are telling me to upload files from cgi-bin on local to cgi-bin on remote.[nbsp][nbsp]I am confused as to why I was left in the xdomain/cgi-bin/ubb folder in step 6 if I am now uploading to cgi-bin--or, am I really supposed to be uploading to xdomain/cgi-bin/ubb?[nbsp][nbsp]This is confusing; please clear this for me.
[This message has been edited by Alex Ethridge (edited 07-03-99)]

[Charles Capps]

You should be uploading from local cgi-bin to remote cgi-bin/ubb/
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[Alex Ethridge]

Okay, to be sure, when the instructions say
Upload all the files from the local cgi-bin directory to the cgi-bin directory on the server
this is actually an error?

Is it right that this is an error in the instructions?
[This message has been edited by Alex Ethridge (edited 07-03-99)]

[Deb]

It's not an error.[nbsp][nbsp]It is correct.[nbsp][nbsp]They are telling you to upload all of the files that are in the local cgi-bin directory (that came with the ubb script) to the cgi-bin on the server.

Charles was just saying to upload it in its own directory within the cgi-bin to help you from getting everything mixed up with other cgi scripts you may want to install.

Creating a ubb folder inside your cgi-bin on the server helps you to keep everything ubb related sorted out.[nbsp][nbsp]If you do this, be sure to correct any paths for it though.

If you want to upload everything straight into your cgi-bin w/o messing with the paths then you can do that to.[nbsp][nbsp]It's just a matter of preference.[nbsp][nbsp]For those who are going to have more than a couple scripts.. they usually create directories for each just to keep things tidy.

HTH
Deb

[Justin]

4[nbsp][nbsp] Create a folder named ubb,
5[nbsp][nbsp] chmod it 755 (or drwxr-xr-x),
6[nbsp][nbsp] change location into it.
I think you missed this, Deb - Del's instructions say to create the /cgi-bin/ubb directory, change into it, and then states to upload to the cgi-bin... what I believe he meant was to upload to the newly created directory.

Another thing about the instructions - you don't have to chmod the directory, as it is automatically 755. All .cgi and .pl files are automatically 755 as they need to be as well. I'm pretty sure you don't have to chmod any files to install the UBB on FutureQuest servers.

HTH

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest Support

[Alex Ethridge]

Justin, you have correctly identified one of the things that confused me about this.Del's instructions say to create the /cgi-bin/ubb directory, change into it, and then states to upload to the cgi-bin... what I believe he meant was to upload to the newly created directory.It seems that there is an error of omission here and for someone who knows nothing of Linux and can only take everything very literally, it can be very confusing; however, I think I understand that what he meant to write and what he actually wrote are two different things.

There is another thing that gave me a problem about his instructions.[nbsp][nbsp]There is a distinct difference between navigating to and navigating into a folder.[nbsp][nbsp]After examining the text, I was reasonably sure that, again, what he meant to write and what he wrote were different.
[This message has been edited by Alex Ethridge (edited 07-04-99)]

[Justin]

Actually, in my opinion, navigate wouldn't be the right word anyway :)

About Linux, none of this really has anything to do with Linux - you will find all of the above on any server, be it Linux, Unix, Sun, or even Win NT - with the only difference being that Windows does not have file permissions other than marking them read only and "hidden".

But anyway, every operating system has files, directories, and symbolic links. They all work in basically the same way in this area.

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Justin Nelson
FutureQuest Support