Looking for unlimited POP3 email host?

[Maynard]

Hi Patrick,

I too am looking for an email host for a couple domains that may not need any immediate websiting.

If you're looking for unlimited POP3 accounts, I suspect that will be either hard to find, or quite pricey.

On the other hand, the FQ "parking" package provides one POP3 account with "catch-all" addresses for the parked domain. I'm inclining toward this myself, while pondering whether or not an IRM would be a workable tradeoff for some site space.

At present I don't have the email features of the registrars (dotster and enom) working yet. ;(

[nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp] `~Maynard

[Jeff]

I probably don't have the answer, but when you say unlimited, do you mean that you'll need 30+ pop boxes?[nbsp][nbsp]Or 100+?[nbsp][nbsp]Or even more?[nbsp][nbsp]Is this to use internally for a company, or to give them to visitors, or to sell them to visitors?[nbsp][nbsp]Is there a $/month you're looking at, or doesn't this matter?

[Patrick]

Looking for unlimited POP3 email hosting company to host only my email.


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Patrick
CIO, Chief Internet Officer
ForeverKate Network
www.ForeverKate.com (http://www.foreverkate.com)

[Patrick]

I presently run a cgi script called MailNow that allows me to offer my visitors free email. But I'm looking for alternatives. 100+ users at around 200k limit per mailbox. And, looking around at different email hosting only packages seems so expensive. Why? It's just freaking email! Oh well.

[Maynard]

The key question is whether or not you want 100+ POP boxes, rather than forwarding service. In terms of server resource usage, the difference would be significant. It's not just the 200k per box; there's also: box setup and allocation, including provision for login:password; server exercises when the box is full, and the additional overhead of POP sessions for retrieval.

There are at least a couple outfits on the Net which provide this kind of thing for web based, advertiser supported, access by your users; but I don't think they offer POP; and I understand that they, not you, then own the user list; which is not without potential ramification.

[Patrick]

Presently, through the stats from my cgi script, received email is at about 30 a day, and about 10 sent a day. Not much traffic at all.
When I set up an additional POP email at my FQ account it's done through the CNC script. So the hosting company has to do nothing. As for "server resources" much of these actions, login - password - sessions are built right into the mail servers to begin with. Maybe someone at FQ could explain whats involved with adding POP mail[nbsp][nbsp]boxes to a domain and why it is so expensive to host?[nbsp]

[Maynard]

Maybe someone at FQ could explain whats involved with adding POP mail[nbsp][nbsp]boxes to a domain and why it is so expensive to host?
They've done that in part on Page 2 where it says:
5 Extra POP EMail Accounts - $5/month per 5 accounts
Remember, pricing is not just about cost; it is about cost and value :)

[Deb]

As noted, there's a lot more to it then "just an email account".[nbsp][nbsp]For FutureQuest, our concentration isn't based primarily on email, outside of the basic needs of a functional Internet Presence.[nbsp][nbsp]"Email-Only" hosts will undoubtedly offer more "bang for the buck" simply because that is the area they concentrate on and they do not have the general web site, scripting, client support to intrude.[nbsp][nbsp]A web host must concentrate on content delivery and by offering an easy way to obtain an enormous amount of email we are opening ourselves up to many spam issues as well as allowing the email usage to intrude on the content delivery.[nbsp][nbsp]It only takes a single abused email account to muck everything up for everyone and by making those email accounts freely available we raise the chances of something "bad(tm)" happening.

Deb
[nbsp]- You want that shipped by ground, sea, or air?

[Matt]

I ran across this the other day and thought maybe it would be of interest to participants in this thread:
http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/email/default.asp?isc=&se=%2B

In summary, 5 POP accounts handling 3MB/ account for $14.95/ yr. or $30 for 10MB/ account. Don't know how reliable these are, but if anyone tries it out, please post back here.

-Matt

[Concerned]

Subject: Say "NO" to Bill 602P. No to email postal charge

Subject: Federal Bill 602p

Guess the warnings were true. Federal Bill 602P 5-cents per E-mail sent. It figures! No more free E-mail! We knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent charge on every delivered E-mail. Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online and continue using E-mail. The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will affect our use of the Internet.

Under proposed legislation, the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill E-mail users out of "alternative postage fees."

Bill 602P will permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every e-mail delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.

Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US Postal Service is claiming lost revenue, due to the proliferation of E-mail, is costing nearly

$230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign: "There is nothing like a letter."

Since the average person received about 10 pieces of E-mail per day in 1998, the cost of the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents a day – or over $180 per year -- above and beyond their regular Internet costs.

Note that this would be money paid directly to the US Postal Service for a service they do not even provide.

The whole point of the Internet is democracy and noninterference. You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be

delivered from coast to coast. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with E-mail, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United States.

Congressional representative, Tony Schnell (R) has even suggested a "$20-$40 per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the governments proposed E-mail charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story the only exception being the Washingtonian which called the idea of

E-mail surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come" (March 6th, 1999 Editorial). Do not sit by and watch your freedom erode away!

Send this E-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write their congressional representative and Say "NO" to Bill 602P.

It will only take a few moments of your time and could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we do not want.

PLEASE FORWARD!

[Terra]

Subject: Say "NO" to Bill 602P. No to email postal charge

Subject: Federal Bill 602p Concerned:[nbsp][nbsp]That is an urban legend or hoax designed to snag people that don't fully research or validate the issue...

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Terra
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FutureQuest

[This message has been edited by ccTech (edited 06-08-01@8:32 pm)]

[dank]

Almost as bad as the concept of such legislation is the fact that it is typically spread through near-spam fashion (hint, hint).[nbsp][nbsp]:([nbsp][nbsp]If you cannot fully explain to yourself the logistics of how such a thing would be administered (who would charge for deliveries, how would people outside the US on a US email service be differentiated, why would receipt be charged and not sending (i.e. spam), why would anyone responsible for email delivery go along with it when it would put their costs through the roof, how many people would leave the 'net and result in reduced email to the point that the anticipated postal profits would be greatly diminished?), then I'd suggest not spreading the word...

Disgusted

p.s.[nbsp][nbsp]I have no knowledge of whether or not such a thing is in the works, but that spiced ham sure smells foul.

[Tatu]

Patrick, you shouldn't be looking for general webhosting for user e-mail (web hosts could easily terminate your account for resources usage and/or for the inevitable spammy users). Look for an e-mail service host while overlooking the free e-mail providers.

For the POP3 email host:
http://netmongol.com/

NetMongol.com is the only service of its kind that I have heard of so far. The guy seems very reliable from forums and I think he also runs 150000-30000 member mail service of his own. The prices look incredibly reasonable... I'm not sure if he's thinking of upping his pricing structure later on or not.

It's not free, but I'd say well worth avoiding the stories heard from BigMailBox and Everyone.net.

HTH

Tatu
[This message has been edited by Tatu (edited 06-08-01@11:51 pm)]

[Bruce]

Regarding the "Bill 602P" hoax, see http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/pending/email.htm

The Snopes Urban Legends pages are a wonderful set of references to real and debunked urban legends.
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Bruce Guenter, FutureQuest
http://untroubled.org/