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Juan G
02-18-2004, 02:41 PM
They have also made five significant changes to Google's algorithmic formulas in the last two weeks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/02/18/google.expands.ap/

Wassercrats
02-18-2004, 04:45 PM
I'm glad my page rank is still 5, but Google should have a way to determine (like, maybe by asking webmasters) whether the www form of the address points to the same page. I have a lower page rank without the www . I'm going to have to publicize the www version so people see the higher page rank.

Wild Rose
01-08-2005, 04:53 PM
You were lucky Wassercrats - my rating went from 5/10 down to 4/10.

:dunno:

Thanks for the head up. At least I've some understanding of why since all my stats really are up. Seemed weird, but at least now I know why.

Anyone else "hit"???

Wassercrats
01-08-2005, 05:17 PM
You're responding to an old post. Since Google's latest changes, my PR went from 5 to 4 too, despite my improving just about everything that can be improved. Maybe it's because I deleted about three pages that had good page ranks. One was a donations page that I didn't replace, but I created improved pages to replace the other two, and I added some brand new pages. I also fixed over 50 HTML errors so my home page is now valid HTML, I have more back links, it's more compatable with IE 5, and it has more unique visitors.

Wild Rose
01-08-2005, 11:42 PM
Rather - well, frustrating isn't the exact word but can't think of what is.

:grr: :wah: :umm: :eeww: :grr:

is sort of more like it

georgeek
01-09-2005, 01:33 PM
They have also made five significant changes to Google's algorithmic formulas in the last two weeks.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/02/18/google.expands.ap/This information is 11 months out of date and Google has added another 5 billion pages since then.

Google's algorithm changes (is modified) frequently but no one outside the 65 PhDs on the search team knows exactly how or how often. It is probably the most secure information on the planet :smile:

Google should have a way to determine (like, maybe by asking webmasters) whether the www form of the address points to the same page.They do have a way, they use the standard Hypertext Transfer Protocol HTTP/1.1 :yeah:

See 10.3.2 301 Moved Permanently (http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html)

- George

Wassercrats
01-09-2005, 02:20 PM
I have the same page rank for www and non www versions now, so Google must have changed something recently. There was a whole thread about what to put in htaccess to direct people to the www version, but I recently had to remove that line because it conflicted with my stats login.

georgeek
01-09-2005, 07:36 PM
I have the same page rank for www and non www versions now, so Google must have changed something recently. There was a whole thread about what to put in htaccess to direct people to the www version, but I recently had to remove that line because it conflicted with my stats login.Copy and paste this exactly into notepad and save as rewrite.txt ...

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^polisource.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.polisource.com/$1 [R=301,L]

FTP to your root directory in ASCII mode not binary mode and then rename the file rewrite.txt to .htaccess then do a server header check for http://polisource.com and it will be a 301.

- George

Wassercrats
01-09-2005, 09:37 PM
See this (http://www.aota.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=118332#post118332) post, ignore Randall's intrusion, and read my reply. There's a slight difference between the rule I was using and the one you suggested, but I doubt it's significant.

Wassercrats
01-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Here's (http://www.aota.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=112110#post112110) someone who had a login problem, but it was due to the register_globals rule, not a 301.After putting "php_flag register_globals off" in the .htaccess file, as recommended, I could not log into EFM any more. After removing the line from .htaccess, everything was fine again.Maybe I could have kept the 301 rule.

I found some interesting stuff on that register_globals rule. Here (http://www.aota.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=112059#post112059), Terra suggests adding it, but in addition to the login problem mentioned above, Dank says at http://www.aota.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=83410#post83410 :
Actually, I'm of the mind that turning register_globals off is the stupidest decision in the history of PHP, and I'm sure there are some other pretty good candidates which would make that a mighty strong statement...But I don't know what that means.

The following might be a solution to the problem with register_globals off:
http://www.aota.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=107166#post107166
For anyone switching to register_globals = OFF, session variables may present a stumbling block.I think a solution follows in that post.

Randall
01-09-2005, 10:26 PM
ignore Randall's intrusion I beg your pardon. The intrusion in question just so happens to have lead Terra directly to an obscure .htaccess bug that would never have been discovered without my inestimable assistance. Did your post do anything useful for mankind, like curing cancer or explaining Phinnaeus Walter Moder? Noooooo.

Randall

Wassercrats
01-09-2005, 11:31 PM
I like to keep my medical research out of the forums, but I happen to have discovered a cure for almost every ailment several years ago. Get a bunch of people with the same blood type as the sick person and connect their blood supplies to each other. Antibodies will be distributed to the sick person who's body is too weak to heal itself, and whatever bad stuff is in the sick persons blood will get diluted. I'm seeking a license to have everyone's home fitted with IV outlets and trying to get legislation passed to require everyone to plug themselves in overnight.

And if it doesn't work, turn it into a water fountain system.

cindik
01-09-2005, 11:36 PM
Sounds a bloody mess to me.

Chipmunk
01-10-2005, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by Wassercrats :
And if it doesn't work, turn it into a water fountain system. If the tubes have a large enough circumference, we could implement the Wassercrats early warning system (http://aota.net/forums/showthread.php?p=108141#post108141), perhaps using salvaged mice. :)

Wild Rose
01-10-2005, 08:12 AM
Personally I prefer "messy" solutions to problems. It doesn't give anyone a chance to sweep everything under the carpet.

Wassercrats do you also have a solution for the World Idiot Problem Everywhere or WIPE?

Wassercrats
01-10-2005, 01:50 PM
The only things I know about WIPE are from my own observations. I'd have people try to be as much like me as possible, but only until science improves enough so that everyone could actually be me.

I also noticed that only the single (regular) sized rolls of toilet paper rest on the roller. The larger sizes rest on the bottom of the recessed tile and increase friction, causing tears too soon. I always buy the single rolls.

cindik
01-10-2005, 01:52 PM
I also noticed that only the single (regular) sized rolls of toilet paper rest on the roller. The larger sizes rest on the bottom of the recessed tile and increase friction, causing tears too soon. I always buy the single rolls.

I never knew anyone so affected by toilet paper that it caused them to cry. How soon is too soon to cry?

Wassercrats
01-10-2005, 02:00 PM
That's a woman-problem. I don't deal with those.

And I don't cry over my toilet paper! People might think that I sprinkle when I tinkle.

Classic bathroom poetry:
If you sprinkle when you tinkle, please be neat and wipe the seat.

But I guess that one's a man-problem.

cindik
01-10-2005, 02:15 PM
I thought it was causing tears.

Wassercrats
01-10-2005, 02:54 PM
According to my last inventory, there still ain't no tears in my man-trail (http://www.aota.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=108394#post108394).

Wild Rose
01-10-2005, 04:15 PM
And I'm sure this is all intimately related to the problem with Google, which is obviously the subject of this discussion. Now if Wassecrats will just show all of us poor mortals how - at least one point of confusion in life will be solved. Though even I see a seemly faint connection between WIPE and wipe.

Randall
01-10-2005, 04:46 PM
And I'm sure this is all <b> intimately</b> related to the problem with Google That would be a very dangerous assumption. So dangerous that it should have a warning label on it -- and 1,500 slobbering lawyers waiting in the wings. I'm seeking a license to have everyone's home fitted with IV outlets and trying to get legislation passed to require everyone to plug themselves in overnight. I'd have people try to be as much like me as possible, but only until science improves enough so that everyone could actually be me. Excuse me while I go lie down for a while. There are some futures just too terrible to contemplate.

(Nobody better cry on my toilet paper while I'm gone. You'll make it all soggy, and then I'll have to set it on fire in the microwave.)

Randall

Wassercrats
01-10-2005, 05:05 PM
Copy and paste this exactly into notepad and save as rewrite.txt ...

RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^polisource.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.polisource.com/$1 [R=301,L]

FTP to your root directory in ASCII mode not binary mode and then rename the file rewrite.txt to .htaccess then do a server header check for http://polisource.com and it will be a 301.I just tried your version, and it works well enough for me to use it. There is a difference between your version the one I'd been using:RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^polisource.com
RewriteRule (.+) http://www.polisource.com/$1 [R=301,L]after all. Mine redirects the non-www to the www version, but it adds "/index.shtml" which gives me a page rank of zero. Yours omits the "/index.shtml." It still leaves me with the problem of having to log into stats twice, but I think it's worth it.

Chipmunk
01-10-2005, 11:00 PM
Serious Mode:
Barry, why are you so concerned about your PageRank? Isn't it more relevant how you rank for specific likely search terms? We've also got a low PageRank, but all our commercial product names are in the top three results, so I really don't care about our overall rank.

I checked out your page of links to quizzes, and was unimpressed with that Blue-Red state one. It's got some semi-ok questions, but I'll bet you could create a much better one. Humor/quiz type pages seem to be a great way to generate links.

Come on, there's enough political types here that even if you throw together a completely lame one, and post a link here, we'll all chip in with suggestions! :)

That's how I motivate artists. I generate some pathetic "programmer art" as a placeholder & send it to 'em, which immediately overloads their brains and boots them into brilliant creative mode. :)


Obligatory toilet paper roll contribution:
Last time I inspected & rotated my car emergency supplies, I briefly contemplated adding a second roll of toilet paper (in plastic bag to prevent tearing & wetting), for use as barter goods, in case of a major catastrophe. It occurred to me that might be paranoid, so I just left it at one (big/thick) roll.

Wassercrats
01-10-2005, 11:49 PM
My page rank is a reflection on me and my site, at least a little. Some people require a minimum PR before they'll do business with you. I saw that when I searched for "page rank of at least" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22page+rank+of+at+least%22). I don't think I have any keywords that are high in the Google results, but I have too much competition for that, so I won't even try. It's not like I'm making money from it, but I'm just about at the point when it becomes worth while to sell advertising, so it's on my mind.

It's possible that my stats will drop even more because I want to change my Employment section to Business & Employment, so I'll be loosing the rank of the Employment page. I'm also thinking of changing the file name of another page, whose section name I already changed, which would be another strike against my website in the eyes of Google.

I didn't take the red-blue quiz, but I saw some of the questions. I almost wrote in the review that it was a complete waste of time, but at least it might be fun. I just felt lucky to find it because I wanted to build up the miscellaneous section. I know that stuff is popular. My Cartoons page might be my most popular, next to my home page. I have too much other stuff planned to work on a quiz like that now.

That brings to mind the Documents in the News (http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/docnewsnew.html) link that I added this morning. It's a no brainer to create such a thing myself, but I didn't want to bother so I linked to another website.