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McDuff
12-13-2007, 01:43 PM
Normally I work with pop3 mail through Pegasus, but occasionally I use Questmail if in a hurry and away from home without connection or laptop. Incoming messages are no problem; they get downloaded into the pop3 email later. However, copies of the “sent” are on Questmail but, of course, I do not see them on my pop3 mail.

Is there a way to download or copy the sent emails so that I can get them into the “copy self” folder of my pop3 mail? Just forwarding them makes them end up as mail from my FQ address, which I don’t want.

Thanks
Mcduff

johnfl68
12-13-2007, 01:55 PM
You could BCC them to your pop3 account when you send them, and then create a filter to relocate them to that folder.

This is one way I can think of to do this.

John

Bob
12-13-2007, 01:55 PM
McDuff,

Have you tried moving the Sent messages to your Inbox in QuestMail, then log out and try and POP that account.

-Bob

McDuff
12-13-2007, 04:54 PM
Tried both, no dice. I did send a trial mail to xx@whatever.com, added Bcc and the automatically generated copy I did "move to inbox and pop" (good one, hadn't thought about that last one before).

In both cases I get the actual mail on my pop3 but in both cases it shows my own sending address in the column "from" instead of the normal indication "to: xx@whatever.com". I need the latter to be able to quickly sort the emails when looking up things.

Any other thoughts?
McDuff

Bob
12-13-2007, 05:01 PM
McDuff,

Send a message from QuestMail. Then open the sent folder and move that to your Inbox and then access your account via POP, you should get a copy showing the From: address as you have set in QuestMail and the address it was sent to as well as the body.

At least the one test I did worked that way for me.

-Bob

McDuff
12-13-2007, 05:29 PM
McDuff,

Send a message from QuestMail. Then open the sent folder and move that to your Inbox and then access your account via POP, you should get a copy showing the From: address as you have set in QuestMail and the address it was sent to as well as the body.

At least the one test I did worked that way for me.

-Bob

Maybe its an issue of PMail. Its individual mail folders only show 5 columns you can use also for sorting:
- a blank one for read-unread-answered-forwarded indications
** a "from" column showing who the mail came from (incoming mail) or who I sent it to (outgoing).
- subject
- date/time
- size

My PMail identifies any mail coming in as such, and only displays its originating address even if, in this case, the sending address (questmail) is the same as the receiving address (pop3 download of the same email box).

Therefore, in the questmail "sent" folder I see who I sent it too, but moving and popping it shows me in a PMail folder only my own address.

To be sure, once I open the mail all addresses etc are there, but the slight annoyance is that I cannot quickly sort that folder and find that mail based upon the address I sent it to. I can find it using the "search" function, which is basically a pain and slow; just trying to make life easy and nice.

McDuff

Randall
12-13-2007, 07:22 PM
If you set up an IMAP account in Pegasus Mail (in parallel with the POP account you have now), you should see a Sent folder under the inbox, which is what QuestMail is using. That's how it appears in the mail clients I've used.

Then you can move it to a local folder.

Randall

McDuff
12-14-2007, 02:12 PM
If you set up an IMAP account in Pegasus Mail (in parallel with the POP account you have now), you should see a Sent folder under the inbox, which is what QuestMail is using. That's how it appears in the mail clients I've used.

Then you can move it to a local folder.

Randall

Randall, thanks, learned something new :yeah:, did not know PMail could do that (never needed it).

No cigar though. Connecting is no problem, see all the folders. Unfortunately, I get the same results as the previous trials.

I had the PMail IMAP "sent" folder and Questmail "sent" folder open next to each other. Both have the same messages, but display them differently. That is, even in PMail IMAP I still see those message as "being sent from", showing my own address, and not as the Questmail "sent" folder, which shows the receiver's address :grr:.

Pity
Mcduff

Randall
12-14-2007, 05:53 PM
I had the PMail IMAP "sent" folder and Questmail "sent" folder open next to each other. Both have the same messages, but display them differently. That is, even in PMail IMAP I still see those message as "being sent from", showing my own address, and not as the Questmail "sent" folder, which shows the receiver's address :grr:. That's understandable -- Pegasus doesn't know which direction the mail is going. But what happens if you drag messages from the IMAP folder to your local Pegasus Sent mail folder?

The key is to use what Pegasus does understand to get the results you want. Some programs can be "told" to treat a certain folder as incoming or outgoing mail. I don't know if Pegasus has that feature.

Randall

McDuff
12-19-2007, 03:49 PM
Took some time to answer because I put up the same question on the PMAIL forum (forgot they had one). No answers till now.

In the configuration, PMail let you decide if you want to make a copy or not, or you can decide so per message individually. If yes, you can have the sent mail stored automatically in a copy to self folder or let PMail ask you for every sent mail, in which folder it should be stored. No matter which folder the sent mail goes to, it always shows up with the "to: receiver address". Copying or shifting mails between folders also does not changes the display mode of a message.

That is also why dragging from the local IMAP to the POP3 folder does not change the display difference; the difference already is visible between the local PMAIL IMAP folder (showing "from..." and the Questmail IMAP folder (still showing "to: ..")

I do not know how PMail forces the mail to show the "to: " header, am by far not enough knowledgeable to find that out or write a script to force that onto a mail :wah:.

McDuff

sheila
12-21-2007, 09:58 PM
This is not a solution for you to continue using Pmail (which I did use myself at one time...) but an alternative you _might_ consider, if you will be using IMAP...

Mulberry is now a free mail client, and one of the columns you can have on display in the mailbox windows is the "smart to/from" column (I don't remember if that is exactly what it is called...something like that). It will not show your own email address (if you have entered them into your profile). Instead it will show TO if sent by you to someone else, or it will show FROM if sent by someone else to you. Basically, by entering your own email addresses into the profile, Mulberry recognizes them and doesn't display them, defaulting to the other field, to or from as the case may be.

http://www.mulberrymail.com/

sheila
12-21-2007, 09:59 PM
By the way, Mulberry does also do POP if you prefer. I just find it an especially compelling mail client for IMAP. It is geeky/techy type of software, though...

McDuff
01-12-2008, 07:41 AM
The PMAIL forum http://community.pmail.com/forums came up with a solution:yeah:

Unfortunately, it did not make me very happy :wah:

You should be able to fix them one message at a time. After copying them to your local folder via IMAP, right click the message (or F12), check "Is a copy to self", and change the "Text shown in From column" to the recipient's address. It's kludgey but it works

By changing the "From" field, they mean manually copy and paste in the recipient's address. It works, but is a pain if there are a lot of mails:eeww:.

For those interested, here the address of the tread, which has some good explanations; maybe other PMAIL users find it useful.

http://community.pmail.com/forums/thread/6112.aspx

As to changing to other programs; PMAIL:vday2: has and still is serving me wonderful for the last 10 or so years. Its structure and security are till now now unsurpassed by any program I heard of and it does virtually everything I need quite simple.

To explain, working with two non-profits I take care of 11 email addresses, with my main address having over 40 folders sorted mainly by topic - project. Switching between users, sorting, finding, optional pre-installed filters and adding extra email spam filters, whatever you want, PMAIL does what I need quickly and without problems.

The minor inconvenience of how to sort emails sent from other programs does not bother me that much; I will stay with PMAIL with QMail as travel backup.

Thanks for all suggestions
McDuff