Juan G
04-29-2000, 02:19 AM
Good morning (in Europe), FutureQuest. :)
As many of you, after looking hard for a good web host, in my finalists paper (pair.com, olm.net...) my favorite one is now FutureQuest. Naturally, I've read many good reviews about this company, its dedicated service to people, etc. For example, what customers say in this forum, or at:
http://www.hostsearch.com/showcomment.asp?Companycode=693
http://www.forumhosts.com/hosts.htm
http://www.deja.com/group/alt.www.webmaster
etc...
I admit that at first I discarded FutureQuest because of the "trailing slash" bug -and also possible cgi problems- in extra domains (IRM). But after my long search probably I am going to FutureQuest. None of the web hosts is perfect, and FQ only has one significant weak point, the extra domains working, and many other very good points.
So, since there is not perfect host, I will resign myself to the best one. ;)[nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp]
About the extra domains, I would like to ask a question.
As an example, I have 4 domains, and 2 of them can be IRM because they are very simple, just old listings of links.
But the other 2 domains will be growing list of links to nonprofits, etc., and they can not be IRM because their, as well, growing number of subdirectories. Of course, I use trailing slashs in the links but, for example, many people will write in browsers short URLs like the following:
mydomain.com/europe
And usually without trailing slash "/", getting an error if the domain is an IRM.
I would like very much a Silver package, but probably I will need 2 Basic packages instead, and to make 2 FTP connections constantly, etc., etc. to avoid those trailing slash errors. I do prefer one Silver, really.
My question is about if it's possible to have in a Silver package two or more non-IRM, normal domains.
I would be happy paying monthly for the extra domain, if the total of Silver ($29.95/mo) plus extra domain is not greater than 2 Basic packages (2 x $19.95/mo).
A possible sketch for IRM and non-IRM, working at the same time:
* Extra domain (IRM, or IRO): $25 setup fee, no monthly charges.
(It's right now this way at FutureQuest, up to 15 extra domains).
* Extra domain (normal, non-IRM, non-IRO):[nbsp][nbsp]$25 setup fee, $5 monthly.
(Just a possible example, maybe for some few normal domains per package).
With these options, the directory tree of a package can be (in my case) like the following:
Root directory of my space
___ 1. Subdirectory (out of the Internet)
___ 2. Domain english.com (normal, non-IRM)
______ 2.1. Domain english.org (IRM)
___ 3. Domain spanish.com (normal, non-IRM)
______ 3.1. Domain spanish.org (IRM)
This as well has the interesting advantage of possible directories out of the Internet, in order to increase security.
Right now, on my current web host, I have a similar tree (but with four normal domains), including in my space a subdirectory where a cgi script is storing passwords out of the Internet (advised this more secure way by some programs).
As I've said, I would like to ask if this is possible at FutureQuest (paying for normal extra domains).
In my personal opinion, this can be a solution while the waiting for a possible improvement in the working of the extra domains IRM.
Anyway, congratulations to FutureQuest team on their outstanding Internet service. :)
Finally, some links to information about the "trailing slash" problem and possible solutions.
(Sorry for this long message, and thank you very much).
FutureQuest: The "trailing slash" IRM domains old bug...
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000097-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000439-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000659-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000435-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000446-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000447-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000510-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000607-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001043-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000928-2.html
(...)
FutureQuest: Extra domains
http://www.FutureQuest.net/ir.php
Apache HTTP Server Version 1.3
Apache 1.3
URL Rewriting Guide
Originally written by
Ralf S. Engelschall <rse@apache.org>
December 1997
This document supplements the mod_rewrite reference documentation. It describes how one can use Apache's mod_rewrite to solve typical URL-based problems webmasters are usually confronted with in practice. I give detailed descriptions on how to solve each problem by configuring URL rewriting rulesets.
Introduction to mod_rewrite
The Apache module mod_rewrite is a killer one, i.e. it is a really sophisticated module which provides a powerful way to do URL manipulations. With it you can nearly do all types of URL manipulations you ever dreamed about. The price you have to pay is to accept complexity, because mod_rewrite's major drawback is that it is not easy to understand and use for the beginner. And even Apache experts sometimes discover new aspects where mod_rewrite can help.
(...)[nbsp][nbsp]<font color=#FF0000>(you can read the texts by clicking on the links below)</font>
Practical Solutions
Here come a lot of practical solutions I've either invented myself or collected from other peoples solutions in the past. Feel free to learn the black magic of URL rewriting from these examples.
(...)
URL Layout
Canonical URLs
(...)
Canonical Hostnames
(...)
<font color=#FF0000>Trailing Slash Problem</font>
(...)
Webcluster through Homogeneous URL Layout
(...)
Apache 1.3: URL Rewriting Guide
http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/rewriteguide.html
8.Why does Apache ask for my password twice before serving a file?
(...) This happens, for example, in the case where you request a directory without including the trailing slash. (...)
Apache Server Frequently Asked Questions: Authentication and Access Restrictions
http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-G.html#prompted-twice
9.Why does accessing directories only work when I include the trailing "/"
(e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user/ ) but not when I omit it
(e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user )?
When you access a directory without a trailing "/", Apache needs to send what is called a redirect to the client to tell it to add the trailing slash. If it did not do so, relative URLs would not work properly. When it sends the redirect, it needs to know the name of the server so that it can include it in the redirect. There are two ways for Apache to find this out; either it can guess, or you can tell it. If your DNS is configured correctly, it can normally guess without any problems. If it is not, however, then you need to tell it.
Add a <font color=#FF0000>ServerName directive</font> to the config file to tell it what the domain name of the server is.
Apache Server Frequently Asked Questions: Configuration Questions
http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-E.html#set-servername
http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/misc/FAQ.html#set-servername
More info:
Apache Core Features: ServerName directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#servername
Apache Core Features: <VirtualHost> directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#virtualhost
Apache Core Features: UseCanonicalName directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#usecanonicalname
Apache Core Features: DocumentRoot directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#documentroot
http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/mod/core.html#documentroot
Apache name-based Virtual Host Support
http://www.apache.org/docs/vhosts/name-based.html
[This message has been edited by Juan G (edited 04-29-00@02:07 am)]
As many of you, after looking hard for a good web host, in my finalists paper (pair.com, olm.net...) my favorite one is now FutureQuest. Naturally, I've read many good reviews about this company, its dedicated service to people, etc. For example, what customers say in this forum, or at:
http://www.hostsearch.com/showcomment.asp?Companycode=693
http://www.forumhosts.com/hosts.htm
http://www.deja.com/group/alt.www.webmaster
etc...
I admit that at first I discarded FutureQuest because of the "trailing slash" bug -and also possible cgi problems- in extra domains (IRM). But after my long search probably I am going to FutureQuest. None of the web hosts is perfect, and FQ only has one significant weak point, the extra domains working, and many other very good points.
So, since there is not perfect host, I will resign myself to the best one. ;)[nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp][nbsp]
About the extra domains, I would like to ask a question.
As an example, I have 4 domains, and 2 of them can be IRM because they are very simple, just old listings of links.
But the other 2 domains will be growing list of links to nonprofits, etc., and they can not be IRM because their, as well, growing number of subdirectories. Of course, I use trailing slashs in the links but, for example, many people will write in browsers short URLs like the following:
mydomain.com/europe
And usually without trailing slash "/", getting an error if the domain is an IRM.
I would like very much a Silver package, but probably I will need 2 Basic packages instead, and to make 2 FTP connections constantly, etc., etc. to avoid those trailing slash errors. I do prefer one Silver, really.
My question is about if it's possible to have in a Silver package two or more non-IRM, normal domains.
I would be happy paying monthly for the extra domain, if the total of Silver ($29.95/mo) plus extra domain is not greater than 2 Basic packages (2 x $19.95/mo).
A possible sketch for IRM and non-IRM, working at the same time:
* Extra domain (IRM, or IRO): $25 setup fee, no monthly charges.
(It's right now this way at FutureQuest, up to 15 extra domains).
* Extra domain (normal, non-IRM, non-IRO):[nbsp][nbsp]$25 setup fee, $5 monthly.
(Just a possible example, maybe for some few normal domains per package).
With these options, the directory tree of a package can be (in my case) like the following:
Root directory of my space
___ 1. Subdirectory (out of the Internet)
___ 2. Domain english.com (normal, non-IRM)
______ 2.1. Domain english.org (IRM)
___ 3. Domain spanish.com (normal, non-IRM)
______ 3.1. Domain spanish.org (IRM)
This as well has the interesting advantage of possible directories out of the Internet, in order to increase security.
Right now, on my current web host, I have a similar tree (but with four normal domains), including in my space a subdirectory where a cgi script is storing passwords out of the Internet (advised this more secure way by some programs).
As I've said, I would like to ask if this is possible at FutureQuest (paying for normal extra domains).
In my personal opinion, this can be a solution while the waiting for a possible improvement in the working of the extra domains IRM.
Anyway, congratulations to FutureQuest team on their outstanding Internet service. :)
Finally, some links to information about the "trailing slash" problem and possible solutions.
(Sorry for this long message, and thank you very much).
FutureQuest: The "trailing slash" IRM domains old bug...
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000097-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000439-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000659-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000435-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000446-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000447-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000510-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000607-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001043-1.html
http://www.aota.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000928-2.html
(...)
FutureQuest: Extra domains
http://www.FutureQuest.net/ir.php
Apache HTTP Server Version 1.3
Apache 1.3
URL Rewriting Guide
Originally written by
Ralf S. Engelschall <rse@apache.org>
December 1997
This document supplements the mod_rewrite reference documentation. It describes how one can use Apache's mod_rewrite to solve typical URL-based problems webmasters are usually confronted with in practice. I give detailed descriptions on how to solve each problem by configuring URL rewriting rulesets.
Introduction to mod_rewrite
The Apache module mod_rewrite is a killer one, i.e. it is a really sophisticated module which provides a powerful way to do URL manipulations. With it you can nearly do all types of URL manipulations you ever dreamed about. The price you have to pay is to accept complexity, because mod_rewrite's major drawback is that it is not easy to understand and use for the beginner. And even Apache experts sometimes discover new aspects where mod_rewrite can help.
(...)[nbsp][nbsp]<font color=#FF0000>(you can read the texts by clicking on the links below)</font>
Practical Solutions
Here come a lot of practical solutions I've either invented myself or collected from other peoples solutions in the past. Feel free to learn the black magic of URL rewriting from these examples.
(...)
URL Layout
Canonical URLs
(...)
Canonical Hostnames
(...)
<font color=#FF0000>Trailing Slash Problem</font>
(...)
Webcluster through Homogeneous URL Layout
(...)
Apache 1.3: URL Rewriting Guide
http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/rewriteguide.html
8.Why does Apache ask for my password twice before serving a file?
(...) This happens, for example, in the case where you request a directory without including the trailing slash. (...)
Apache Server Frequently Asked Questions: Authentication and Access Restrictions
http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-G.html#prompted-twice
9.Why does accessing directories only work when I include the trailing "/"
(e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user/ ) but not when I omit it
(e.g., http://foo.domain.com/~user )?
When you access a directory without a trailing "/", Apache needs to send what is called a redirect to the client to tell it to add the trailing slash. If it did not do so, relative URLs would not work properly. When it sends the redirect, it needs to know the name of the server so that it can include it in the redirect. There are two ways for Apache to find this out; either it can guess, or you can tell it. If your DNS is configured correctly, it can normally guess without any problems. If it is not, however, then you need to tell it.
Add a <font color=#FF0000>ServerName directive</font> to the config file to tell it what the domain name of the server is.
Apache Server Frequently Asked Questions: Configuration Questions
http://www.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ-E.html#set-servername
http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/misc/FAQ.html#set-servername
More info:
Apache Core Features: ServerName directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#servername
Apache Core Features: <VirtualHost> directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#virtualhost
Apache Core Features: UseCanonicalName directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#usecanonicalname
Apache Core Features: DocumentRoot directive
http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#documentroot
http://www.apache.org/docs-1.2/mod/core.html#documentroot
Apache name-based Virtual Host Support
http://www.apache.org/docs/vhosts/name-based.html
[This message has been edited by Juan G (edited 04-29-00@02:07 am)]